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In reply to the discussion: Seymour Hersh: US knowingly armed ISIS [View all]karynnj
(60,764 posts)some to his biographer/lover. As to Clinton,in fairness, it was long before known that she would serve one term only -- which she did. It was also obvious well before 2012 that she would run for President in 2016. You can't be SoS and run for President. Not to mention, given the politics involved, Obama really could never have even pushed Clinton to resign -- without creating chaos in the Democratic party. She was not like Hagel, who Obama could essentially kick out (with many whispers against him even after he was leaving).
I have never been mistaken as pro Clinton, but this insinuation that Obama actually fired her is just completely inaccurate. By 2012, Syria was a huge mess, with no viable option.
Just as all successes in foreign policy are not JUST the US's work, all failures are not all the US's fault. Assad's response to early protests with greater and greater force - even if the US fostered the protests is part of the problem. (Not to mention, there were factors like the millions of people who fled dried up rural lands for the cities where they were then unable to find work creating a pool of mostly Sunni people, totally impoverished, easily pushed to fight.)