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82. I doubt the NRLB would do anything absent a complaint from the union

Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:48 PM

Jan 2016

And the union doesn't seem to be on board with the walkout.

They weren't fired because they wanted to pray, they were fired because they CHOSE not to come to work for three days.

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Muslim workers in Fort Morgan fired over prayer dispute walkout [View all] FrodosPet Dec 2015 OP

Our version of capitalism, or any version, allows abuse of employees like this. randys1 Dec 2015 #1

How would that work, exactly? FrodosPet Dec 2015 #4

I get angry sometimes and go to extremes, what we NEED are STRONG unions that would threaten randys1 Dec 2015 #6

What right to pray? cali Dec 2015 #7

Unions can create all kinds of on the job rights for people. Rights are the wrong word, of course randys1 Dec 2015 #9

There is no right to prayer in the workplace, and I don't believe there should be. cali Dec 2015 #10

The poster only wants those "rights" given to whom he deems "victimized". ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #23

Ain't that the truth! grossproffit Jan 2016 #69

The workers were praying peabody Dec 2015 #49

The company did not and is not prohibiting that cali Dec 2015 #51

The company isn't prohibiting it, GGJohn Dec 2015 #52

Am I missing something? peabody Dec 2015 #54

I seem to be missing something also, an earlier report said that the company still allowed prayer, GGJohn Dec 2015 #59

Yes, that was the deal...they even had a "refection room" made available. MindPilot Jan 2016 #73

Thanks for the information, GGJohn Jan 2016 #74

Okay, if that's the case peabody Jan 2016 #80

Actually there is n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #71

Please elaborate and specify where to find this right in the Constitution or case law cali Jan 2016 #72

Surely you aren't SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #75

Your employer is not the government. Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #88

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 disagrees with you SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #95

On their own time. Unpaid. Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #97

Absolutely on their own time and not at the employer's expense SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #98

Shutting down production 5 random times a day is an unreasonable accomodation FrodosPet Jan 2016 #100

I agree that shutting down production 5 times per day is unreasonable SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #101

aww shucks - I was going to 840high Jan 2016 #102

They are Teamsters local 445. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #16

Hence why they were fired. whitefordmd Dec 2015 #29

If the contract was in force, and not between contracts during negotiations, yeah, they're toast. Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #90

A right to pray? Huh? Tipperary Dec 2015 #60

Y'all missing point, pray, play cards, whatever. randys1 Dec 2015 #61

You can do anything you want on breaks or on lunch. Tipperary Dec 2015 #63

Anyone has the right to pray on their break SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2015 #67

Publix seems to be running fine NobodyHere Jan 2016 #92

That's because it is EMPLOYEE owned, not state owned FrodosPet Jan 2016 #99

The communists tried that randy, so did Zimbabwe LittleBlue Dec 2015 #18

You are a true voice of reason. nt clarice Dec 2015 #35

You too LittleBlue Dec 2015 #46

right back atcha !!! clarice Jan 2016 #70

And then what ?...... clarice Dec 2015 #32

+1. People who suggest this never consider those questions LittleBlue Dec 2015 #45

we should have Maduro come and run the company! snooper2 Jan 2016 #103

I sympathize in that Cargill changed their policy cali Dec 2015 #2

i don't think employers should have to provide space and time for prayer patsimp Dec 2015 #3

I 100% agree. nt Logical Dec 2015 #13

Cargill says it didn't. It allowed workers to take the breaks if it could be done Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #58

Good. FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #5

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #83

Federal law disagrees with you n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #84

...+1 840high Jan 2016 #104

There has to be more going on here. Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #8

why did they change the policy ? JI7 Dec 2015 #11

those are the questions to ask JCMach1 Dec 2015 #12

I know of no mainstream religions in the USA that requires special rooms, etc. nt Logical Dec 2015 #14

What really odd, is the firm I work for has a group which uses madinmaryland Dec 2015 #20

I'm a federal employee SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2015 #22

I've been in the private sector for over 30 years and had never seen anything like that. madinmaryland Dec 2015 #24

If the rooms aren't needed for anything else SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2015 #25

I would assume that this isn't done on company time? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #26

During lunch breaks n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2015 #27

Appropriate. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #28

I 100% agree. nt Logical Dec 2015 #34

Why provide prayer time in the first place? GGJohn Dec 2015 #21

It's interesting that you would ask that..... clarice Dec 2015 #38

Did Carter ever demand that prayer time be provided for employees on company time? GGJohn Dec 2015 #44

I am stumped the meaning of "meat solutions" dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #15

Case goods for food service pscot Dec 2015 #19

There are times when I have found that a "meat solution" can be very relaxing. nt clarice Dec 2015 #42

They shouldn't have walked out LittleBlue Dec 2015 #17

Cargill: Tried to resolve issues before firing Colorado Muslim workers tammywammy Dec 2015 #30

From what I understand, Cargill allowed 2-3 employees at a time to pray, but the employees were GGJohn Dec 2015 #31

Shutting down an assembly line is not a reasonable accommodation TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #36

Which would not be considered a reasonable accommodation. tammywammy Dec 2015 #37

Correct. GGJohn Dec 2015 #43

I wonder why they were using CAIR instead of their union reps? n/t tammywammy Dec 2015 #47

That's a distinct possibility. GGJohn Dec 2015 #48

Reading this, it seems that as the company tried to be more accommodating, some workers pushed Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #39

I agree shutting down the line is not reasonable. tammywammy Dec 2015 #40

Do your work and pray on your own time... TipTok Dec 2015 #33

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Sounds like time for arbitration. There is definitely miscommunication. kwassa Dec 2015 #53

Well, from this article, it seems that the union was not seeing cause for action Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #56

It sounds like the union is out of touch with some of the rank-and-file ... kwassa Dec 2015 #57

Or CAIR gave them bad advice against the Union's recommendations. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #62

Possibly. Much of this story is unclear. kwassa Dec 2015 #64

"That never stopped us from rushing to judgment." GGJohn Dec 2015 #65

Or the workers are asking for something not possible to get. It cuts both ways. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #66

We don't know exactly how it played out. kwassa Dec 2015 #68

We do know cair was negotiating for them Mosby Jan 2016 #78

good!! We need a society where everybody is the same. This tolerance of Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #55

I rarely side with corporations ... earthside Jan 2016 #76

I think this is the first time in my life that I have ever sided with smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #85

The NLRB should be all up in that company's business mwrguy Jan 2016 #77

For what? tammywammy Jan 2016 #79

Then an audit will exonerate them mwrguy Jan 2016 #81

So if a cop asks you if he can search your car, you'll let them, after all, GGJohn Jan 2016 #87

Did I just publicly give him probably cause with 190 witnesses? mwrguy Jan 2016 #89

190 witnesses to what? GGJohn Jan 2016 #91

You're right, we should just take the corporation's word for it instead of investigating mwrguy Jan 2016 #93

Hey dude, even the Union is disagreeing with those employees walking off the job, GGJohn Jan 2016 #94

I doubt the NRLB would do anything absent a complaint from the union SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #82

So you want to use the power of the Govt to harass a business just because you don't like GGJohn Jan 2016 #86

Scary stuff n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #96