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radhika

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97. Actually, I do get your point - and my second comment was sarcastic...but

Thu May 31, 2012, 01:58 PM

May 2012

I am so drained by hearing of overturned convictions, the heartbreaking findings of the Innocence Project (100+ death row exonerations), the police brutality acquittals despite video evidence. (Rodney King?)...not to mention stupid celebrity trials here in LA.

As these sordid and indefensible (IMHO) verdicts roll out nationwide, I really can't give the jurors a clear walk. Most courtrooms are open, and usually spectators can get a seat. They see the jurors. In small towns, quite likely people know them already. Our celeb jurors (remember OJ?) published books and got some face-time on TV.

The deck is stacked against defendants everywhere I look. Our entire legal system, assumed validity of police testimony, botched forensics...I'm just sayin.

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An 18 year old girl was killed by a texting drunk driver. He was just acquitted. He is rich. [View all] Godhumor May 2012 OP

That's inexplicable. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #1

WTF? whathehell May 2012 #12

Yes that makes it worse to me. Hardly a defense. KurtNYC May 2012 #14

Jeebus... whathehell May 2012 #47

Many do. My BIL used to work in the ER and said that when KurtNYC May 2012 #112

Talk about chutzpah! whathehell May 2012 #129

He flipping deleted texts and wiped down his car. MattBaggins May 2012 #86

if he hit an animal, why wipe down the car and delete texts? SemperEadem May 2012 #115

Is texting while driving illegal in NY? There should be records. The Wielding Truth May 2012 #116

Yes, it is Godhumor May 2012 #126

So if involved in a crash while texting and someone is killed,all they do is take your phone? The Wielding Truth Jun 2012 #157

Yes, If that doesn't qualify as "knowledge of guilt", I don't know what does! whathehell May 2012 #131

A jury that's too enamored of and bedazzled by position, liberalhistorian May 2012 #143

A juror who was interviewed said the prosecution didn't address the issue pnwmom May 2012 #102

Jeebus...I've got to send this my sister whathehell May 2012 #130

Yep, I thought of the Senser case when I read this. n/t geardaddy May 2012 #45

I hope there is an attorney out there ready for a huge civil suit. nt nanabugg May 2012 #113

.... abelenkpe May 2012 #119

I attend graduate school in Minneapolis during the week, liberalhistorian May 2012 #142

What's up with the jury? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #2

The jurors names and faces should be on every front page in Buffalo n/t radhika May 2012 #68

um...no Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #70

If the decision was honest, I'm sure they'd be proud to stand by it n/t radhika May 2012 #72

It's not what these jurors think its about future jurors Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #74

Actually, I do get your point - and my second comment was sarcastic...but radhika May 2012 #97

"If you're not doing anything wrong, you have no need for privacy!" TheWraith May 2012 #93

sadly, too many people... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #121

kilted? trumad May 2012 #3

Already have. Damn that auto-complete n/t Godhumor May 2012 #5

When I first saw this thread I thought maybe English wasn't your 1st language Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #71

One set of rules for the wealthy, and another set for the rest of us CanonRay May 2012 #4

Exactly right. n/t DLevine May 2012 #7

Apparently the DA (read: The System) put up a strong case. It was the jury that did this. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #11

Jury hasn't spoken about decision yet, but the consensus is they believed his testimony Godhumor May 2012 #15

ditto. It's just stunning. n/t Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #22

What was his BAC? nt msanthrope May 2012 #34

He refused the breathalyzer and had his blood forcibly drawn 5 hours after the hit and run Godhumor May 2012 #57

So he challenged the estimated BAC, and the jury believed his expert? msanthrope May 2012 #65

5 hours after, his BAC was still 0.1 Godhumor May 2012 #73

If that is what the jury faced, then I can tell you you win that case on msanthrope May 2012 #85

ironically, a juror was dismissed on the 5th day after being cited for aggravated DWI Godhumor May 2012 #91

That is fucking appalling. joshcryer May 2012 #123

As a doctor, he may have known how to purge alcohol from his system with deep breathing. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #88

Whether he saw or didn't see the girl should not had been a defense. LiberalFighter May 2012 #78

I suppose it never occurred to the dumbfucks liberalhistorian May 2012 #145

Most juries are full of morons. Odin2005 May 2012 #81

Here are some reasons cited by a juror. pnwmom May 2012 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2012 #146

I've come to the point of view recently 14thColony May 2012 #26

They want slavery Johonny May 2012 #37

It's called Bastard Feudalism malthaussen May 2012 #40

Yup...I took a history course awhile ago and it seems that at one time whathehell May 2012 #50

Ha-ha. That's a good one! Interesting question: which was worse for workers, coalition_unwilling May 2012 #55

Read "The Great Gatsby", especially how Tom & Daisy cover up a hit and run. SharonAnn May 2012 #75

Oh, we've never moved beyond fudalism. joshcryer May 2012 #124

Today? TODAY? liberalhistorian May 2012 #144

he'll kill again warrior1 May 2012 #6

His next victim may well be a patient Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #8

exactly lunasun May 2012 #150

What's up with the judge, he could ask the jury how they came to this conclusion... uponit7771 May 2012 #9

The good doctor.. Fumesucker May 2012 #10

no but he looks like a drunk to me. barbtries May 2012 #42

I have seen the face of evil. nt MrYikes May 2012 #13

My God, when I saw his pic I immediatey thought the same thing. Eerie. lumpy May 2012 #36

I've said for years, ever since the O.J. crap that Drale May 2012 #16

I understand that as an "ideal", but ... surrealAmerican May 2012 #87

I see a possible reason why the jury ruled the way it did atreides1 May 2012 #17

There is no justice in this Nation anymore. 99Forever May 2012 #18

Is it possible MrYikes May 2012 #19

Anything is possible. 99Forever May 2012 #24

Anymore? NYC Liberal May 2012 #21

As Billie Holiday and Arthur Herzog wrote so many years ago: coalition_unwilling May 2012 #56

It HAS always been that way... Whiskeytide May 2012 #59

Well, we have seen this before. NYC Liberal May 2012 #106

the jury made Bellerophon May 2012 #51

You actually think... 99Forever May 2012 #89

are you Bellerophon May 2012 #92

And you think the only way a jury's decision... 99Forever May 2012 #98

the Bellerophon May 2012 #100

Piffle. 99Forever May 2012 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author dionysus May 2012 #99

Got money and connections you can get away with anything in this country. WI_DEM May 2012 #20

Anyone... of any age, caught driving & texting.... AlbertCat May 2012 #23

Its moving in an interesting direction. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #120

Why shouldn't passengers be allowed to text? Can they differentiate between a driver and passenger? Ghost in the Machine May 2012 #151

Yeah I was thinking about that. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2012 #154

He hit a skateboarder wearing dark clothing at 11:40 pm? msanthrope May 2012 #25

The prosecution showed how the victim was highly visible from a significant distance Godhumor May 2012 #39

Why are you shocked? malthaussen May 2012 #41

It was Dan White who used the Twinkie Defense to get off of murdering Harvey Milk. n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #43

Have any links on that evidence? Ultimately the jury does not have to buy msanthrope May 2012 #46

I misspoke, it was testimony not introduced evidence Godhumor May 2012 #77

He was too drunk to process what he was seeing rocktivity May 2012 #52

Even if he was, he should still get manslaughter. The fact that the jury bought the argument... joshcryer May 2012 #125

He would have stopped if he knew he'd hit a human? I hit anything, I STOP. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #27

He admits he KNOWS he hit something rocktivity May 2012 #35

And once again SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #28

Pure sociopathy. This is how a typical corporation behaves. This is how Capitalism behaves. Zalatix May 2012 #29

Would it be possible to have his medical license removed? Fresh_Start May 2012 #30

k and r..nt Stuart G May 2012 #31

Our legal system obviously favors the wealthy over the poor. ZombieHorde May 2012 #32

A judge can nullify a verdict if he feels it doesn't fit the evidence. rocktivity May 2012 #33

a judge can not nullify an acquittal. msanthrope May 2012 #38

A judge can nullify a conviction (in some jurisdictions), but not an acquittal alcibiades_mystery May 2012 #61

Hopefully the civil case will be more 'successful' azurnoir May 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author TalkingDog May 2012 #48

That case needs to be reviewed and reexamined. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #49

Some pigs are more equal than others. raouldukelives May 2012 #53

Well said. I couldn't agree with you more. n/t DLevine May 2012 #90

DUIWR* isn't a crime. Ask George Bush. lastlib May 2012 #54

This happened near me Smilo May 2012 #58

There will be a different kind of justice, though not criminal. Geoff R. Casavant May 2012 #60

I was thinking similarly ut oh May 2012 #104

They can't put Dr. Corsanti in jail Hubert Flottz May 2012 #62

WTF is in the BUffalo drinking water? benld74 May 2012 #63

Doesn't exactly Meiko May 2012 #64

money talks, bullshit walks datasuspect May 2012 #66

blame the victim mentality? magical thyme May 2012 #67

So remind me what makes us different from a banana republic? nt valerief May 2012 #69

This is what Bush has done to America deaniac21 May 2012 #76

Um......no, don't think so. liberalhistorian May 2012 #147

Laws only apply to us little people. Odin2005 May 2012 #79

I understand being upset about a death... harmonicon May 2012 #80

for those interested, quick bullet points on the case Godhumor May 2012 #82

Can you confirm something I read about this trial? July May 2012 #117

Correct on all points. He called his lawyer before the police Godhumor May 2012 #127

Thanks for the confirmation. July May 2012 #128

to the aristocracy, only their own miserable lives are worth anything. librechik May 2012 #83

This is about the power of attorneys. Gregorian May 2012 #84

a bamboozled nation that pretends it has no class system ............ ManyShadesOf May 2012 #118

well BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #155

Thanks. Common sense was what I was thinking of too. Gregorian Jun 2012 #156

hey Gregorian ... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #158

Tell me more about Carole Gilligan Gregorian Jun 2012 #159

Let's not forget the doctor (surgeon IIRC) that was riding his bike and was run down by a Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #94

Well, the system was fair. He won. It sucks but no way to change it. He has a right to spend... Logical May 2012 #95

I don't get it...You're just finding out that Blue_Tires May 2012 #96

I would have no choice but to kill him. MrSlayer May 2012 #101

sometimes you get 12 good men (and women) Looks like they got 12 ignorant dumbfucks. CBGLuthier May 2012 #105

This is unbelievable. The judge and jury should be ashamed. Catherine Vincent May 2012 #107

The boyfriend of the mother had to be removed from court Godhumor May 2012 #132

If he's rich he must be a productive member of society. athenasatanjesus May 2012 #108

Shows what a good lawyer can do. There is still the state medical board---he McCamy Taylor May 2012 #109

I want something to happen. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #110

I'll say it for you... DontTreadOnMe May 2012 #149

Also possible one of the jurors knows someone who is a patient of the doctor. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #111

kneecap him in civil court SemperEadem May 2012 #114

Corsanti might well get a stiff neck from this DFW May 2012 #122

Here's the scene ahimsa May 2012 #133

I drove past it today on my way home from work. The memorial is much larger now Godhumor May 2012 #135

Surprised headline isn't... ThoughtCriminal May 2012 #137

Alix Rice's parents are much better people than I could ever hope to be bupkus May 2012 #134

Good God, read this account of Corasanti's actions and statements bupkus May 2012 #136

OJ Simpson got off on his first trial.. MicaelS May 2012 #138

A case where the rich guy was not even charged with a felony: freshwest May 2012 #139

a super-rich guy hit & runs a middle-of-the-road rich guy. wow. how in the hell do you not HiPointDem May 2012 #140

When I was 16, I worked at the country club Corsanti was driving home from... The Doctor. May 2012 #141

OJ libodem May 2012 #152

Corsanti should thank god Hawkowl Jun 2012 #153

Three words: Wrongful Death Lawsuit KamaAina Jun 2012 #160