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steve2470

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56. So is Vice News part of the GRAND WESTERN MEDIA CONSPIRACY also ?

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:45 PM

Jan 2016

What went on in Ukraine in 2015 ( after Russia sneaky-invaded the country in early 2014 and annexed Crimea ) was not a Cold War or frozen conflict, where the shooting and killing lie either in the past or in a potential future. Nor was it a hot, high-intensity fight in which two countries spent their blood, toil, tears, and sweat on an existential battle to the death. It wasn't even an American-style quagmire like Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan.

bolding mine

https://news.vice.com/article/why-russia-spent-2015-half-assing-it-in-ukraine1

I want a yes or no answer. I deliberately went looking for NON-mainstream media sources.

I'm never going to accept Sputnik News, RT, Interfax, or TASS as legitimate sources. Just as you should never accept the Voice of America as a totally non-biased source. I think you're wasting your time on DU using Sputnik News, but feel free to keep wasting your time.

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Impossible for Ukrainian authorities to end their civil war. [View all] another_liberal Jan 2016 OP

Hmmm, Sputnik News, GGJohn Jan 2016 #1

Because you know . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #65

WTF? DetlefK Jan 2016 #2

That article about artificial insemination Ilsa Jan 2016 #14

Should the U.S. allow California and Hawaii Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #3

Canada allowed Quebec two referenda daleo Jan 2016 #6

The UK is made up of several countries, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #13

Scotland is not a member of the UN therefore it is not a separate country. CJCRANE Jan 2016 #46

You brought up Scotland. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #60

The UK is made of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland...Each one is a "country" CJCRANE Jan 2016 #63

You are correct, but I don't know why you are making this point to me. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #67

Crimea was part of Russia until Krushchev gave it to Ukraine in 1954. CJCRANE Jan 2016 #69

They were both a part of the USSR, not Russia. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #74

Here are some wiki links daleo Jan 2016 #73

How does that apply here? another_liberal Jan 2016 #8

The Ukraine can't end it as long as Russia and Putin want a hunk of their country FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #4

This is the correct answer mythology Jan 2016 #5

Another correct answer would be... LooseWilly Jan 2016 #70

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Jan 2016 #58

What did Putin edhopper Jan 2016 #7

Not a damn thing . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #9

I'm a progressive liberal american edhopper Jan 2016 #10

Neither do I . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #17

RT and SputnikNews edhopper Jan 2016 #21

Once again . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #24

Interesting, you couldn't refute his point. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #33

Probably hard to find those other sources edhopper Jan 2016 #38

Interesting you got to pile on, too. Octafish Jan 2016 #39

Just pointing out the obvious. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #43

New York Times swore up-and-down Saddam had WMDs. Octafish Jan 2016 #47

And every major intelligence agency in the world said Saddam had WMD's, GGJohn Jan 2016 #48

No, not even every intelligence agency in the United States said that. Octafish Jan 2016 #61

Yeah they did, Russian Intelligence, Israeli intellignece, French intelligence, GGJohn Jan 2016 #62

I use sources I like . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #42

"I use sources I like . . ." GGJohn Jan 2016 #45

If you don't like what I write about your posts edhopper Jan 2016 #36

Constantly just telling me you don't like my source because it's "Russian" . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #66

Don't be coy edhopper Jan 2016 #68

No, you post them from... MattSh Jan 2016 #76

Whatever you get paid to post this nonsense is too much. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #11

The sad part edhopper Jan 2016 #12

Are you accusing me of being a paid foreign agent? another_liberal Jan 2016 #16

no I don't edhopper Jan 2016 #20

And that is your business how? another_liberal Jan 2016 #22

You do realize that this is an open discussion board don't you? GGJohn Jan 2016 #30

you wish to censor edhopper Jan 2016 #40

So tell us why you use only "news" sources that are wholly run by the Russian Govt.? GGJohn Jan 2016 #25

I don't care for the lock-step anti-Russian and pro-war stance . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #32

So you like to push the Russian govts propaganda here on DU? GGJohn Jan 2016 #34

Russia is pro-war edhopper Jan 2016 #41

Are you accusing me of being a paid agent of a foreign government? another_liberal Jan 2016 #15

You know what's insulting??? polly7 Jan 2016 #18

If I may interject . . . another_liberal Jan 2016 #19

Thank you:). That pissed me off. polly7 Jan 2016 #27

Says the one who does the same thing as the OP. GGJohn Jan 2016 #23

Says the one who actually ever says .................. nothing. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #26

Oh, I say a lot, you just don't like what I have to say, GGJohn Jan 2016 #28

Nah ............ nothing you've ever said about - anything - has ever resonated or even struck me polly7 Jan 2016 #29

Back atcha. GGJohn Jan 2016 #31

You betcha. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #37

* ronnie624 Jan 2016 #35

That is funny edhopper Jan 2016 #44

Why is it funny?? polly7 Jan 2016 #49

Oh, the irony edhopper Jan 2016 #50

Oh ......... the truth. polly7 Jan 2016 #51

Ah RT and SputnikNews edhopper Jan 2016 #52

No, the truth of your attempts to shut up any voice that doesn't bleat your MSM propaganda. polly7 Jan 2016 #53

Did I say the OP could not post? edhopper Jan 2016 #54

Awwwwwwies. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #55

So is Vice News part of the GRAND WESTERN MEDIA CONSPIRACY also ? steve2470 Jan 2016 #56

lulz of the day - You walked into that one. Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #72

ok point taken and learned steve2470 Jan 2016 #75

France asked for the delay in the separatist areas Nevernose Jan 2016 #57

so is this article part of the GRAND WESTERN MEDIA CONSPIRACY also ? steve2470 Jan 2016 #59

It seems anything edhopper Jan 2016 #64

"Fellow Travelers" I think you are an agents of the John Birch Society betterdemsonly Jan 2016 #71

My group? edhopper Jan 2016 #77