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In reply to the discussion: Historic New Harpers Article Exposes Who Controls America [View all]leveymg
(36,418 posts)14. More on what Saudi and neocon influence has bought: ISIS
http://harpers.org/archive/2016/01/a-special-relationship/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43724.htm
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A Special Relationship
The United States Is Teaming Up With Al Qaeda, Again
By Andrew Cockburn
December 14, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "Harpers" -
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By the beginning of 2012, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and the United States were all heavily involved in supporting the armed rebellion against Assad. In theory, American support for the Free Syrian Army was limited to nonlethal supplies from both the State Department and the CIA. Qatar, which had successfully packed the opposition Syrian National Council with members of the Muslim Brotherhood, operated under no such restrictions. A stream of loaded Qatari transport planes took off from Al Udeid and headed to Turkey, whence their lethal cargo was moved into Syria.
The Qataris were not at all discriminating in who they gave arms to, the former White House official told me. They were just dumping stuff to lucky recipients. Chief among the lucky ones were Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham, both of which had benefited from a rebranding strategy instituted by Osama bin Laden. The year before he was killed, bin Laden had complained about the damage that offshoots such as Al Qaeda in Iraq, with its taste for beheadings and similar atrocities, had done to his organizations image. He directed his media staff to prepare a new strategy that would avoid everything that would have a negative impact on the perception of Al Qaeda. Among the rebranding proposals discussed at his Abbottabad compound was the simple expedient of changing the organizations name. This strategy was gradually implemented for the groups newer offshoots, allowing Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham to present themselves to the credulous as kinder, gentler Islamists.
The rebranding program was paradoxically assisted by the rise of the Islamic State, a group that had split off from the Al Qaeda organization partly in disagreement over the image-softening exercise enjoined by Zawahiri. Although the Islamic State attracted many defectors and gained territory at the expense of its former Nusra partners, its assiduously cultivated reputation for extreme cruelty made the other groups look humane by comparison. (According to Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, many Nusra members suspect that the Islamic State was created by the Americans to discredit jihad.)
Saudi Arabia, meanwhile, driven principally by its virulent enmity toward Iran, Assads main supporter, was eager to throw its weight behind the anti-Assad crusade. By December 2012, the CIA was arranging for large quantities of weapons, paid for by the Saudis, to move from Croatia to Jordan to Syria.
The Saudis preferred to work through us, explained the former White House official. They didnt have an autonomous capability to find weapons. We were the intermediaries, with some control over the distribution. There was an implicit illusion on the part of the U.S. that Saudi weapons were going to groups with some potential for a pro-Western attitude. This was a curious illusion to entertain, given Saudi Arabias grim culture of Wahhabi austerity as well as Secretary of State Hillary Clintons flat declaration, in a classified cable from 2009, that donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.
Some in intelligence circles suspect that such funding is ongoing. How much Saudi and Qatari money and Im not suggesting direct government funding, but I am suggesting maybe a blind eye being turned is being channeled towards ISIS and reaching it? Dearlove asked in July 2014. For ISIS to be able to surge into the Sunni areas of Iraq in the way that its done recently has to be the consequence of substantial and sustained funding. Such things simply do not happen spontaneously. Those on the receiving end of Islamic State attacks tend to agree. Asked what could be done to help Iraq following the groups lightning assaults in the summer of 2014, an Iraqi diplomat replied: Bomb Saudi Arabia.
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The Saudi-Israeli relationship always struck me as really weird but this article
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2016
#4
The Israeli role in US politics is well known. Here's more about the Saudis and the Clintons (NYT):
leveymg
Jan 2016
#9
Nothing there about Israel either. You appear to be putting forward an evidence-free conspiracy
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2016
#10
If you want someone to reply to you, then you ought to reply to them
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2016
#17
I originally posted in response to you. Established the nexus between Israel and KSA "diplomacy"
leveymg
Jan 2016
#18
Your 'crickets' reply was in reply to a reply you wrote to yourself.
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2016
#19
Not as incestuous as the Bush and al-Saud clans, but it's bi-partisan. Unfortunately.
leveymg
Jan 2016
#13
You should post this to good reads. It will last longer on the front page
betterdemsonly
Jan 2016
#7