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davekriss

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19. I guess you missed the Princeton study

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:38 PM

Jan 2016

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy

My own opinion: There are two votes in America: The dollar vote, followed by the "democratic" vote. Candidates, policies, and legislation generally have to pass the dollar vote before it ever comes to a democratic vote. The problem with this is it's not very "democratic".

Those with more dollars get to vote more than those with less. As a result, no legislation is passed into law that hurts the interests of the monied class. Sure, some legislation makes it through, crumbs for the masses, but again because it does not hurt those with large net worth.

There are exceptions, of course, but this model is substantially true. And it gets worse as money concentrated in the hands of the few.

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The Oligarchy [View all] Scuba Jan 2016 OP

No such thing. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #1

You keep saying that despite the evidence, of which you provide none. Scuba Jan 2016 #2

You have provided precisely zero evidence there is an oligarchy in control of the US. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #3

Did you miss this? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #7

That has nothing to do with demonstrating an oligarchy controls the US. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #8

. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #10

Not proof at all MohRokTah Jan 2016 #11

You're unconvincable. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #13

Wow, I've earned a new respect for MohRokTah retrowire Jan 2016 #16

Ostriches... Docreed2003 Jan 2016 #27

And pointless. Proserpina Jan 2016 #28

world class skill SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #31

When private citizens can outspend political parties... tecelote Jan 2016 #25

One name. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #29

Lost me. tecelote Jan 2016 #32

Cantor outspent his primary opponent more than 10 to 1 MohRokTah Jan 2016 #37

Are you trying to show me how bad Cantor campaigned? So bad that he couldn't get elected? tecelote Jan 2016 #43

Hey Mr. Moh !! Oligarchy lert !! FairWinds Jan 2016 #59

Maybe this might help. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #9

No hard evidence, just supposition. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #12

That's a mindblowingly simplistic take. This is even less satisfying than I could have imagined. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #14

Jimmy Carter disagrees with you. Chef Eric Jan 2016 #34

Carter is engaging in hyperbolic rhetoric MohRokTah Jan 2016 #38

By definition, Jimmy Carter is not a politician. Chef Eric Jan 2016 #42

President Carter is not currently a politician. lovemydog Jan 2016 #62

Incorrect BlindTiresias Jan 2016 #47

Ever hear of Gerrymandering? sonofspy777 Jan 2016 #57

I guess you missed the Princeton study davekriss Jan 2016 #19

So long as we can eject all 435 members of the House every two years,... MohRokTah Jan 2016 #20

Seems to me you've been given plenty of evidence davekriss Jan 2016 #40

Actually, not a shred of evidence has been given. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #41

How can you breathe so deep in d'Nile LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #50

Well... BlindTiresias Jan 2016 #48

I love seeing 435 fresh faces every two years. rug Jan 2016 #55

Meet the new boss. lovemydog Jan 2016 #72

So does Goldman-Sachs. Representative are cheaper when they're newbies. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #74

You think there is no such thing as an oligarchy? lovemydog Jan 2016 #61

By definition, this nation is not run by an oligarchy. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #66

I beg to differ because even in our founding documents, lovemydog Jan 2016 #69

LOL. nt laundry_queen Jan 2016 #81

Shut them all down PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #4

Darn that pesky Fifth Amendment. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #17

The takings clause is normally used for real property -- senz Jan 2016 #51

From my post yesterday --- some things never change. tabasco Jan 2016 #5

... AzDar Jan 2016 #22

+1. Excellent...thanks for sharing this! Docreed2003 Jan 2016 #30

She was reincarnated as Elizabeth Warren. senz Jan 2016 #52

10++ 840high Jan 2016 #79

Only someone as math impaired as Wall Street couldn't see that the public Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #6

Kickin' Faux pas Jan 2016 #15

Whatever You Want To Call It colsohlibgal Jan 2016 #18

Agree in part lovemydog Jan 2016 #64

Has Hillary even uttered the word oligarchy yet? jalan48 Jan 2016 #21

Are you kidding me? SmittynMo Jan 2016 #23

Exactly-how about the question of income inequality? jalan48 Jan 2016 #24

Wat? And bite the hand that feeds 'er? senz Jan 2016 #53

Oli-wat? ozone_man Jan 2016 #73

Clintons� Income May Reach Top 1% of the 1% - thanks to Goldman, JPMorgan and Citigroup whereisjustice Jan 2016 #26

UBS Wealth Management Octafish Jan 2016 #85

And the banks are only the cover. Behind are other corporations jwirr Jan 2016 #33

K&R for as much visibility as possible. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #35

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #36

The Treasury is their piggy bank. nt valerief Jan 2016 #39

Organized thievery randr Jan 2016 #44

Oh, that's where the recovery went. Glad they were able to help those folks out. jtuck004 Jan 2016 #45

This. PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #54

Hey Mr. Moh . . FairWinds Jan 2016 #46

Oh, for Pete's Rebkeh Jan 2016 #49

Good info! kentuck Jan 2016 #56

K&R azmom Jan 2016 #58

Did the government make the money back? lovemydog Jan 2016 #60

Definition of oligarchy: lovemydog Jan 2016 #63

I can only think of two reasons to deny we're an oligarchy .... Scuba Jan 2016 #65

Know Thyself. So few truly do. nt raouldukelives Jan 2016 #67

Boom. Walk off, Scuba. hifiguy Jan 2016 #86

Right! H2O Man Jan 2016 #68

Revisiting it again today, lovemydog Jan 2016 #70

And that, it is. H2O Man Jan 2016 #71

There are thousands of elected positions in this country treestar Jan 2016 #75

Cool story...let's see, there was Citizen's United. I don't recall approving that. Then there was libdem4life Jan 2016 #76

You said it eloquently. lovemydog Jan 2016 #80

they are all elected treestar Jan 2016 #82

The Little People = Little Power People. Unless one has an office in The Beltway, they are libdem4life Jan 2016 #83

America's founders set up a democratic form of government. senz Jan 2016 #77

A superb post. hifiguy Jan 2016 #87

Thank so much, hifiguy. senz Jan 2016 #90

wonder why i could rec? the button is gone... silvershadow May 2016 #91

This is obscene madokie Jan 2016 #78

Like two opposing attorneys in a divorce case. They excoriate each other in court, then go to the libdem4life Jan 2016 #84

One thing they always share is their complete contempt hifiguy Jan 2016 #88

So true. Jonathon Livingston Seagull personified. libdem4life Jan 2016 #89