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PufPuf23

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30. A major claim of the militia is they believe they have a constitutional right to the land.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jan 2016

from: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armed-militia-bundy-brothers-take-over-federal-building-in-rural-oregon/ar-BBoa6sU?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=iehp

Noting that the group isn’t holding hostages, Ryan Bundy echoed his brother, telling the Oregonian that the group doesn’t want to resort to violence but will not rule it out if authorities attempt to remove the occupiers from the property. He said many of the occupiers would be willing to fight — and die — to reclaim constitutionally protected rights for local land management, according to the Associated Press.

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“The best possible outcome is that the ranchers that have been kicked out of the area, then they will come back and reclaim their land, and the wildlife refuge will be shut down forever and the federal government will relinquish such control,” Ryan Bundy told the Oregonian. “What we’re doing is not rebellious. What we’re doing is in accordance with the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land.”

The Malheur National Wildlife Refuge was established on August 18, 1908 by President Theodore Roosevelt “as a preserve and breeding ground for native birds,” according to the park’s website.

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At Sunday’s news conference, Ammon Bundy said the refuge’s creation was “an unconstitutional act,” one that removed local ranchers from their lands, thrusting the county into an economic depression.

“This refuge here is rightfully owned by the people and we intend to use it,” he said, adding that they plan to assisting ranchers, loggers, hunters and campers who want to use the land. “We will be here as a unified body of people that understand the principles of the Constitution.”

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The fact is that the federal lands "belong" to a variety of competing uses, needs, and interest groups and that the Feds have put in place means to favor locals in economic matters over non-locals as the status quo and foster local input and direction in land management.







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Apparently, the jury did not buy their defense jberryhill Jan 2016 #1
Unfortunately, news accounts are not .... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #3
Oregon has air quality laws and a low tolerance 4 idiots who abuse land roguevalley Jan 2016 #42
Thank you for posting this. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #2
This is the background ... sunnystarr Jan 2016 #8
$600,000 of taxpayer's money handmade34 Jan 2016 #4
I've read they did it to cover illegal poaching on federal grounds cali Jan 2016 #5
They intentionally set fire to federal property. cleanhippie Jan 2016 #6
K&R eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #7
It is the same thing I would be guilty of if I was burning my grass and it LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #9
Actually, they set the fires intentionally to cover up poaching on public land. OregonBlue Jan 2016 #11
It doesn't make that much different the act that they did to cover it up was arson on LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #12
Here's some history on the Hammonds... 2naSalit Jan 2016 #10
Uhhmm, did you read your own title? How about- arson? LooseWilly Jan 2016 #13
The point of my post us that.... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #22
Read more, get back to us. nt Logical Jan 2016 #14
The federal government has been entering "stewardship contracts" to restore PufPuf23 Jan 2016 #15
interesting hfojvt Jan 2016 #17
The "whiny babies" are obviously making excuses. PufPuf23 Jan 2016 #20
middle of nowhere? hfojvt Jan 2016 #25
I actually live where there are less people and services local PufPuf23 Jan 2016 #27
I was way off on the size hfojvt Jan 2016 #29
You are correct now. South Dakota is sparsely populated and so is eastern Oregon (and Montana). PufPuf23 Jan 2016 #31
A major claim of the militia is they believe they have a constitutional right to the land. PufPuf23 Jan 2016 #30
Thanks for the background information eom reACTIONary Jan 2016 #23
if you can start a 139 acre fire hfojvt Jan 2016 #16
You haven't spent much time in the west, have you? XemaSab Jan 2016 #18
Driving across the Colorado Rockies a few years back EL34x4 Jan 2016 #19
to some people hfojvt Jan 2016 #26
Nice try. Ohio is mid EAST. It is 2/3 of the way from the center of the country Ms. Toad Jan 2016 #43
I think it is insane too hfojvt Jan 2016 #44
Arson. (n/t) Iggo Jan 2016 #21
K and R. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #24
Origionally,, poaching on the reserve larkrake Jan 2016 #28
Were they ever convicted of poaching? NobodyHere Jan 2016 #37
Does anybody besides me NobodyHere Jan 2016 #32
It doesn't sound right to me either. rtw Jan 2016 #33
Were they even convicted of poaching? NobodyHere Jan 2016 #34
Don't think so rtw Jan 2016 #36
the judge that gave the first reduced sentence was a wingnut who had no RIGHT to do so. JanMichael Jan 2016 #35
I'm not sure I'd equate rtw Jan 2016 #38
nit picking point. they are going and not playing cowfucking gunhumpers with the out of towners. nt JanMichael Jan 2016 #40
Well, the Bundy brothers are not out of towners rtw Jan 2016 #41
Nope. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #39
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