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Lizzie Poppet

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4. And I think he's representing the vast majority of locals, too.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jan 2016

I live clear over in Portland, but I visit eastern Oregon a lot (and that area in particular). My impression of the people in Burns and thereabouts is that while most are pretty conservative in their politics, they are not anti-government, teahadist extremists at all. A large percentage make their living from the federal presence in the county (either working for the BLM/Forest Service or providing goods and services. They are fairly typical small town folk (or at least the oddball Oregon version thereof) who will NOT be amused at out-of-area dickheads with guns and an agenda invading their town. They might have their issues with the BLM (who can be high-handed, to say the least), but they're inclined to settle matters with the ballot box, not the cartridge box...just like sane people everywhere.

I don't envy Sheriff Ward. When the militants first seized the refuge compound, there's no way he would have had the manpower to try and stop them. Harney County has not much over 7000 people total (in a county bigger than seven US states); there's no reason to have a large sheriff's department, and the only town with a police force of its own only has it because it's tribal land. Ward was dealing with a potentially violent group that outnumbered the forces he had available (although I think if the teahadists had started anything, Ward would have had scores of locals willing to help defend their town...but what an unholy bloody mess that might have turned into).

By tomorrow morning, I suspect there will be a LOT of law enforcement there, including possibly an FBI weapons team, given that they've seized federal land. I expect a patient solution (a siege is preferable to bloodshed), but if it really does come to a fight, the advantage will be on the side of the law.

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best wishes to this sheriff DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #1
And I think he's representing the vast majority of locals, too. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #4
These guys can do it again and again in small towns until the law stops them. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #8
You don't say... alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #2
Every local who supports these yahoos needs to think about jail time L. Coyote Jan 2016 #19
"Support the Troops" is now "Kill the Troops" with these idiots? Whose side are they on? arcane1 Jan 2016 #3
I am getting roaminronin Jan 2016 #5
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #6
I think you're right, roaminronin. n/t lamp_shade Jan 2016 #18
It is going exactly as planned. The real event isn't in Oregon, that's just where they film. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #21
I was reading up on the backstory that caused all this. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #7
Thanks. I bet these guys have read only selected parts JDPriestly Jan 2016 #10
I have firefighters in my family 47of74 Jan 2016 #13
Their Constitution consists of the Justice Scaley approved part of the 2nd Amendment SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #24
Nevada has very harsh anti-terror laws. Not sure about Oregon. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #9
Um, armed insurrection? icymist Jan 2016 #11
real protest usually means dong something techically illegal, Volaris Jan 2016 #12
With pliers and blow torches. 47of74 Jan 2016 #14
If they don't have the Sheriff this has completely blown up in their faces. Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #15
Thanks for posting this davidpdx Jan 2016 #16
Yeah, this is going to be over shortly. I'm guessing less than 24h. AtheistCrusader Jan 2016 #17
Yeah, guessing being the keyword. This ends sometime just after the first Tuesday in Nov. no doubt. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #22
Well, the protestors have been hung out to dry by BOTH the Hammonds' and the Sherriff. AtheistCrusader Jan 2016 #23
Maybe they should building a fence around the cabin/restroom and Vinca Jan 2016 #20
A striking difference in the sherrif of this caounty and the other Oregon rural sheriff Jim Beard Jan 2016 #25
Did he mean "ulterior motives?" Sanity Claws Jan 2016 #26
They had better clear out before the Spring Migration. JEB Jan 2016 #27
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