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OregonBlue

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51. This refuge was designated by Teddy Roosevelt in 1908. It is not land that has been

Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:17 PM

Jan 2016

taken from local ranchers. Their dearest wish is to be able to log, fish, hunt, run cattle, and drain it if that's what they need to be able to "recreate". The locals are very aware of what an amazing place it is and very proud of the job the government has done in protecting this resource. They are not happy with the Hammonds and are especially disgusted with the Bundyites that have flooded the area. The Hammonds were convicted in a court in Pendleton, Oregon. Not exactly a liberal bastion, so we know that Eastern Oregonians are not supporting them. The locals want it to end.

Hopefully the Hammonds will turn themselves in today. The government will shut off power and water and leave these guys to freeze their butts off. If the media would ignore them, they would go away.

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Audubon Society: Statement on Armed Bundy Terrorists' Malheur Occupation [View all] 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 OP

I wonder whether those crazies knew what the word JDPriestly Jan 2016 #1

Wow. Thank you for that. Uncanny 'coincidence'? Not. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #3

The fuckers'll be shooting and deep frying the threatened birds by Tuesday NightWatcher Jan 2016 #2

Fortunately, most are migratory. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #5

Me too. Destroy historic monuments like terrorists in the Middle East. They have much in common. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #9

Exactly the analogy that came to my mind as well. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #19

They are terrorist scum workinclasszero Jan 2016 #93

Maybe not. Maybe it will turn out to be similar to the JDPriestly Jan 2016 #11

I wish I could believe that, Paka Jan 2016 #15

I read what was behind this whole thing, which was JDPriestly Jan 2016 #16

Arson for the purpose of destroying evidence of poaching on public lands. eppur_se_muova Jan 2016 #40

Not only that passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #60

Occupy did not take over in order to shut people out. They welcomed different points of view. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #62

They probably felt about us, like we feel about them. AtheistCrusader Jan 2016 #22

I worry about that too. I appreciate your updates here since you have knowledge of that sanctuary Tipperary Jan 2016 #35

Thank you! Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #44

I so want to visit that part of the country. I really hope they get those fools out of there without Tipperary Jan 2016 #55

If you get the chance do it! Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #56

Please don't go now...anyone...that's what the militants are asking for passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #61

They expressed this beautifully! nt Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #4

Yeah how is giving the land to private interests giving it to the people?? hollowdweller Jan 2016 #6

Then they'll sell out to the condo builders. Vinca Jan 2016 #29

They will harvest the timber. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #38

They have explicitly stated: Saviolo Jan 2016 #57

They have already put AtV trails through Native American ruins in the area..against law of course Person 2713 Jan 2016 #89

I agree that the people occupying this federal facilictyvare idiots. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #7

Really? "Hyperbole"? JNelson6563 Jan 2016 #10

I do not support these idiots. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #13

Lack of regular maintenance Ned Flanders Jan 2016 #18

How many clogged culverts have been a problem since this whole thing started? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #27

I assume you've never spent much time in that part of the country? Ned Flanders Jan 2016 #81

How many roads have washed out in the last four days? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #84

So let's see what happens the next time a storm drops a couple inches on the area. n/m Ned Flanders Jan 2016 #91

A couple inches of snow won't be a big deal. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #92

You don't think they are capable of sabotage? eShirl Jan 2016 #25

What sabotoge? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #28

provoking an armed attack on the refuge's infrastructure hopemountain Jan 2016 #30

Provoking an armed attack? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #37

That is what I thought they were doing at the first Bundy confrontation. bvar22 Jan 2016 #65

There have been other armed incursions as well Ned Flanders Jan 2016 #82

How about arson ? After all, they are riled about the conviction of two arsonists ... eppur_se_muova Jan 2016 #41

What about the arson? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #43

How it got screwed up? atreides1 Jan 2016 #54

If violence happens, they'll lose. Plain and simple. AtheistCrusader Jan 2016 #23

The refuge is a big place, these idiots have occupied an outhouse. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #26

this is bullshit and you know it. nt hopemountain Jan 2016 #31

If unarmed hippies occupy a public park they get brutalized. If armed crazy-assed rhett o rick Jan 2016 #69

If we kill them with drones, we'll damage that outhouse. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #70

Why do you have more contempt for the Audubon Society than the terrorists? nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #74

I don't advocate killing any members of either. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #75

So what do you propose? nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #76

I proposed it in another thread: huge loudspeakers JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #77

I could go along with that, as long as no birdwatchers are harmed. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #78

Rick Astley 24x7 could destroy a birdwatcher's ability to hear a finch. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #79

When even birdwatchers hate you, you're screwed. rug Jan 2016 #8

You've really got a point there. montana_hazeleyes Jan 2016 #14

Yip, *now* the gunnutters have done it!1 n/t UTUSN Jan 2016 #45

Those birdwatchers have kicked some pro-wrestling butt! JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #72

K & R for Sallinger's clear statement davekriss Jan 2016 #12

Good Thing No Firefighters Lost Their Lives Fighting The Fire Yallow Jan 2016 #17

I think I read that one or two were injured Schema Thing Jan 2016 #39

My wife, the wildland fire captain of 30 years... Ned Flanders Jan 2016 #83

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2016 #20

lucky their white captainarizona Jan 2016 #21

Yep. Just ask the Black Panthers 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #24

lucky their white AlbertCat Jan 2016 #48

Skin I'm guessing. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #59

Their white unperforated butts. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #73

Very nice statement roscoeroscoe Jan 2016 #32

you are thinking these folks are capable of shame dembotoz Jan 2016 #36

It would be nice to see M$Greedia carry this response malaise Jan 2016 #33

corporate media are anti Liberal government. BillZBubb Jan 2016 #34

"BELONGS TO ALL AMERICANS"... Herman4747 Jan 2016 #42

Sons of Nevada Rancher, Bundy, are the Ringleaders dem in texas Jan 2016 #46

Let's ignore the fundies on this one. saidsimplesimon Jan 2016 #50

Refuge has its own Wikipedia page Herman4747 Jan 2016 #47

Vanilla ISIS at work again. blackspade Jan 2016 #49

This refuge was designated by Teddy Roosevelt in 1908. It is not land that has been OregonBlue Jan 2016 #51

I agree with you but this idiot does not passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #63

But they are not Oregon militants. They are foreign terrorists. OregonBlue Jan 2016 #64

Why would you consider anyone from the US a foreigner? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #67

As you can probably tell, I'm from Oregon. OregonBlue Jan 2016 #85

Yes, so am I passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #86

Not everyone. Just Teabilles who come here to stir up trouble. OregonBlue Jan 2016 #87

We have two simliar wildlife refuges here in Delaware - Bombay and Primehook LynneSin Jan 2016 #52

These people are "Takers!" The irony is lost on them. Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #53

Typical Reich-Wing Attitude Toward Property Rights . . FairWinds Jan 2016 #58

seems to me that ranchers have always ignored public lands allan01 Jan 2016 #66

These Bureau of Land Management militants passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #68

Why isn't Obama taking action? His admin sure took quick action on OWS. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #71

K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Jan 2016 #80

K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Jan 2016 #88

This is interesting...an animated map of the facilities, passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #90

Thieves and poachers. Nothing more. Nothing less. K&R ffr Jan 2016 #94