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Octafish

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115. My sentiments, exactly.

Mon Jan 4, 2016, 03:58 PM

Jan 2016

Very nicely said, senz. The guy's an example of what's happened to the United States of America: The nation has been taken over by gangsters.

They don't care about who gets killed as long as they get their way.

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Gov. Don Siegelman spent 57 days in ''The Hole'' [View all] Octafish Jan 2016 OP

Why is he still a political prisoner?! haikugal Jan 2016 #1

At this point, any truth he tells is threatening to Republican party. n/t dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #2

Democrats did nothing to support him, why? haikugal Jan 2016 #3

EXACTLY! If I understand fredamae Jan 2016 #6

Good question and I agree...the question stands. haikugal Jan 2016 #7

Probably pardons him on the way out the door. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #18

Not very courageous on Obama's part. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #21

I'm very disappointed. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #31

He won't do it awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #47

Pardoning him out the door would do little. former9thward Jan 2016 #60

It would erase the criminal record NobodyHere Jan 2016 #84

Well, I'm thankful for that. But he should be released to serve in house arrest at this point. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #87

Thanks for raising the fundamental question about the elephant in the room swilton Jan 2016 #22

We need to keep making noise about this. haikugal Jan 2016 #33

Haikugal, why do you assume we should have Hortensis Jan 2016 #83

Here's a good article from the New Yorker which explains the case femmedem Jan 2016 #85

OFCS! Everyone supports him except a few people. But, justice is an institution with rules L. Coyote Jan 2016 #109

One of Obama's mistakes...or was it a mistake. haikugal Jan 2016 #113

To shut him up. Octafish Jan 2016 #4

I agree, so the question stands because I've seen nothing from the democrats in his regard. haikugal Jan 2016 #5

Dems stood with him until OBAMA sided with Rove. Octafish Jan 2016 #8

Thanks again! haikugal Jan 2016 #9

By nominating Kagan, Obama sealed Siegelman's fate. OnyxCollie Jan 2016 #10

Ms. Kagan sided with the ''Money Trumps Peace'' crowd. Octafish Jan 2016 #11

+++++++ a million!! haikugal Jan 2016 #35

but think of SCOTUS!1!!!11! (only used by the wing of the party that gave us Thomas, I'd add) MisterP Jan 2016 #45

But we're supposed to vote for democrats because of SCOTUS. CrispyQ Jan 2016 #55

Why has Obama not pardoned this KKKarl Rove political prisoner? ViseGrip Jan 2016 #12

Former Asst. US Prosecutor Stephen Feaga writes that Siegelman conviction is fair and square. Octafish Jan 2016 #15

thanks for the important info. nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #96

He is not eligible for a presidential pardon hack89 Jan 2016 #59

There is no limitation on the President's power to pardon. former9thward Jan 2016 #67

I just know what I read on the DOJ office of pardons website. hack89 Jan 2016 #68

The website does not apply to the President. former9thward Jan 2016 #69

Executive pardons don't apply to the president? hack89 Jan 2016 #72

I guess you forgot Ford pardoned Nixon. former9thward Jan 2016 #73

Were Gov Siegelman's crimes against the US? nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #74

Yes, he was convicted in federal court. former9thward Jan 2016 #81

The Marc Rich pardon was deemed so improper that it ignited a bipartisan fire storm hack89 Jan 2016 #75

It's very strange to compare a pardon for Gov Siegelman with the pardon of Marc Rich. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #77

The investigations were meant to simply embarrass Clinton. former9thward Jan 2016 #82

Our Democrats have acted too cowardly on this issue. madfloridian Jan 2016 #13

Retaliation Octafish Jan 2016 #24

K&R cprise Jan 2016 #14

Siegelman got placed in solitary for talking to Thom Hartmann. Octafish Jan 2016 #34

Perry did everything Siegelman did and more. I think they keep Siegelman in jail McCamy Taylor Jan 2016 #16

Those who did the same reads like a ''Who's Who'' of GOP candidates. Octafish Jan 2016 #38

They already destroyed his political future, a presidential contender, and now want to teach all L. Coyote Jan 2016 #110

Just goes to show how grotesquely corrupt... gregcrawford Jan 2016 #17

Remember the 8 US Attorneys who stood up to Rove? Octafish Jan 2016 #50

Yeah, I remember that... gregcrawford Jan 2016 #76

Can someone like Jon Stewart, Oprah, or Colbert or one of the networks raise Siegelman's case? MariaThinks Jan 2016 #19

Maybe John Oliver will take it up SamKnause Jan 2016 #39

Can anyone on this board get them interested in doing this? MariaThinks Jan 2016 #40

I am not in the inner circle SamKnause Jan 2016 #41

I think 60 Minutes did a segment on Gov Siegelman. I didn't see it but read rhett o rick Jan 2016 #78

Wasn't Biden trying to help? I don't get it. DeeDeeNY Jan 2016 #20

It must be behind the scenes. Octafish Jan 2016 #106

Yes DeeDeeNY Jan 2016 #108

What LA Times reported in 2009... Octafish Jan 2016 #111

This issue goes beyond the political SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #23

Incredible! That critical information is missing from the public record... Octafish Jan 2016 #107

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #25

Why aren't there national voices talking about this? SoapBox Jan 2016 #26

Don is in jail because he said voting in America is corrupt and both parties know that too Botany Jan 2016 #27

Guy was an existential threat to Business as Usual. Octafish Jan 2016 #94

I've been surprised the Obama admin hasn't done more on this case Jarqui Jan 2016 #28

Given the fact that the Obama administration has done nothing to step into this case MohRokTah Jan 2016 #29

You are not alone in writing that on DU. Octafish Jan 2016 #32

No thanks. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #43

Suit yourself. Octafish Jan 2016 #49

No thanks. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #56

Great. I like discussion with people who like to learn. Octafish Jan 2016 #61

There's a problem with that. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #63

Really? Octafish Jan 2016 #64

Really. There is absolutely no truth in CT woo. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #66

Is that what professional debunker John McAdams says? Octafish Jan 2016 #70

I don't care what somebody who posts links to your threads thinks. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #71

You're arguing with true believers rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #80

Does True Believer Believe in BFEE? Octafish Jan 2016 #93

Bat guano rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #100

So, you don't have anything really to say. Octafish Jan 2016 #102

No rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #104

If that were true, you wouldn't bother to smear me. Octafish Jan 2016 #105

Here I'll save you the trouble rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #79

No thanks. No click on your link. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #88

Ok rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #92

The comments say more about Alabama and the blogger than anything... haikugal Jan 2016 #89

Independent thought is hard for the flock. Rex Jan 2016 #44

Of course. haikugal Jan 2016 #37

It's more complicated than that. femmedem Jan 2016 #86

Given the fact that you conclude the conviction was justified. mhatrw Jan 2016 #97

You are certainly free to do so. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #98

Our political system is basically rotten. The Siegelman case is just another piece ladjf Jan 2016 #30

Essentially we have lost the commons and our democracy. haikugal Jan 2016 #36

It is sick we have a political prisoner imprisoned in America. Rex Jan 2016 #42

Abraham Bolden gets no mention in the history books for that very reason. Octafish Jan 2016 #51

"Abraham Bolden paid a heavy price for trying to tell the truth..." CrispyQ Jan 2016 #57

Abraham Bolden lives. Octafish Jan 2016 #62

Thank you. I did not know this. roody Jan 2016 #101

Yes, this...once again. Variations on a theme. Thanks! nt haikugal Jan 2016 #90

The fact that Obama allows this man to sit in prison onecaliberal Jan 2016 #46

That's the point onecaliberal... haikugal Jan 2016 #48

I agree. It's why I support Berne, and why I will never again vote onecaliberal Jan 2016 #52

K&R on that...I'm in agreement with you, never again! nt haikugal Jan 2016 #54

K&R! Thanks for the post, Octafish... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2016 #53

Solitary Confinement for two months for talking with the Press. Octafish Jan 2016 #114

"Can you believe it's 2016?" It's hard to imagine and I, as well as Ghost in the Machine Jan 2016 #116

May Karl Rove rot in hell for eternity. senz Jan 2016 #58

My sentiments, exactly. Octafish Jan 2016 #115

K&R...'Why Obama Should Pardon Don Siegelman' spanone Jan 2016 #65

Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #91

Governor Siegelman's incarceration is a travesty that Obama has bewilderingly ignored. seafan Jan 2016 #95

K&R ngGale Jan 2016 #99

Why, Obama? Pastiche423 Jan 2016 #103

I was fortunate to meet Don Siegelman back at the 2008 Dem convention librechik Jan 2016 #112