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TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts) Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:53 AM Jan 2016

Sexual assaults on New Year's Eve in Germany [View all]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046

The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central train station has shocked Germany. About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved.

City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said.

Women were also targeted in Hamburg.

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The people in Europe are going to revolt if their leaders don't get a handle on their immigration problem. Letting in so many young men - many with extreme sexist and misogynist views about women - nothing to do, no jobs....UGH These guys need classes in modern culture and the rule of law asap!

With an ocean separating the U.S., we're able to vet our refugees and prioritize families with children. Thankfully!

Also, http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/01/04/world/europe/ap-eu-germany-sex-assaults.html?_r=0

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Sexual assaults on New Year's Eve in Germany [View all] TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 OP

"But the police have also insisted that many of the men had been known to them for some time and pampango Jan 2016 #1

Ummm TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #3

Maybe we need to figure out how to integrate males into society? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #4

So you are into collective punishments. Germany, it's always had men. It's never had rape gangs Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #20

Really? So, they were committed based on skin color? TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #23

You have GOT to be kidding me. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #27

Nice try ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #34

Yeah no LittleBlue Jan 2016 #58

? jack_krass Jan 2016 #69

"Germany has to figure out how to integrate them into society." nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #83

Unfortunately, I don't think they want to integrate into Western society. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #85

Who doesn't want to? *All* of them? If nothing else, that's a huge sweeping generalization. nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #92

Considering that the police chief in Cologne kiva Jan 2016 #32

Thanks for adding that bit of info/context Number23 Jan 2016 #70

According to FAZ, there were also attacks in Stuttgart and Hamburg. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #5

Why would you think it's not getting alot of attention? Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #7

When you said "here", I thought you were referring to the United States. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #9

Some DUers are reluctant to criticize certain categories Ex Lurker Jan 2016 #10

Well, it's a terrible thing. lovemydog Jan 2016 #11

These trolls don't give a damn about the victims RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #12

Sexual assault is a serious issue oberliner Jan 2016 #14

Or perhaps some of us are sick of sexist, misogynist TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #22

Well said! underahedgerow Jan 2016 #49

Also interesting that the mayor of Cologne slut shaming the victims gets a pass on DU Ex Lurker Jan 2016 #54

Oh - she's not getting a pass leftynyc Jan 2016 #56

I'd argue that idiot had been vilified here more than supported. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #60

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #74

But some of those large threads have a lot of simple responses The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #16

Exactly! Some people refuse to acknowledge that certain cultures have smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #30

Two of the top LBN threads are about this topic with many responses oberliner Jan 2016 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #15

I think there have been a couple of threads ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #61

I have a theory that may explain some of that. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2016 #52

Islam has a free pass among progressives davidn3600 Jan 2016 #17

I don't understand why more leftynyc Jan 2016 #19

KnR to the thread and this post GummyBearz Jan 2016 #21

Prepare to be called a racist Democat Jan 2016 #24

Like I said leftynyc Jan 2016 #25

Yep. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #40

LOL leftynyc Jan 2016 #51

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #75

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 katsy Jan 2016 #81

To some extent I agree with you, lovemydog Jan 2016 #59

No, the racism is assuming they're migrants when the authorities explicitly say they are not. jeff47 Jan 2016 #26

To the best of my knowledge, the authorities explicitly stated they weren't refugees... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #39

Some people Puzzledtraveller Jan 2016 #53

You are blaming a religion philosslayer Jan 2016 #88

Being agnostic, I am not a fan of any organized religion davidn3600 Jan 2016 #89

There's a post in LBN leftynyc Jan 2016 #18

In my particular case, I'm a bit leery of a story jeff47 Jan 2016 #29

I'm sure all of those women who complained of assult are lying, kiva Jan 2016 #33

Not what I said, but thanks for the hyperbole. jeff47 Jan 2016 #42

The police chief of Cologne was dishonest about what happened kiva Jan 2016 #57

Keep the Mexicans....er....Syrians out!!!! jeff47 Jan 2016 #63

Sacrifice the women!!!! (borrowing some of your exclamation points) kiva Jan 2016 #68

I don't think they're migrants or refugees ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #37

And many physical descriptions turn out to be wrong. jeff47 Jan 2016 #45

Yeah but... davidn3600 Jan 2016 #50

I sometimes wonder if the second generation muslims already in the country aren't doing smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #77

So do you think the 90+ women who reported B2G Jan 2016 #38

Nope. I think the claims that it's all refugees and they must all be sent back are wrong. jeff47 Jan 2016 #43

BBC story... GummyBearz Jan 2016 #41

And multiple stories after that claimed this is was a lie. jeff47 Jan 2016 #44

After the mayor basically slut shamed the victims, I don't trust anything she says NT Ex Lurker Jan 2016 #55

Great, now you just have to come up with a reason to ignore about 5 other officials. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #64

But it is THEIR country davidn3600 Jan 2016 #46

And it very well may be THEIR rapists. jeff47 Jan 2016 #47

And be ready to accept Islam davidn3600 Jan 2016 #48

:facepalm: jeff47 Jan 2016 #62

I operate under the belief that organized religion tends to treat women poorly davidn3600 Jan 2016 #66

Problem is, you seem to assume all (or nearly all) Muslims are culturally backward, and perhaps nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #82

We are not talking about liberal Muslims here looking for skilled opportunity davidn3600 Jan 2016 #87

Any refugees who commit serious crimes should be imprisoned and then deported. Full stop. nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #91

Unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen. Ever. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #86

Is that a disingenuous question? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #31

And there's no shortage of those out in the media, only a certain percentage of which are likely nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #84

This is a bloody shirt for Islamophobes mwrguy Jan 2016 #28

What should the response from the left be? oberliner Jan 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #67

That's an interesting question. lovemydog Jan 2016 #71

I sympathize with the concern that Muslims/refugees as a group will be blamed for this. nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #79

"even if it turns out to be totally exaggerated." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #90

glad to see that this is getting some attention niyad Jan 2016 #36

Here's a new BBC article on it: lovemydog Jan 2016 #72

Thanks for posting. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #73

Won't do any good melman Jan 2016 #76

What cowards to go after defenseless women. Why don't they go after the smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #78

I agree, what a bunch of cowardly creeps. Whatever else they may be, that seems most important. nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #80