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whatthehey

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41. Cannibalism? I love dogs, but they are not human and, Korea aside, not food
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

Now social mores are in play yes, but that's just sticking a nicer label on "ooh icky".

I'm genuinely curious about why burial rituals and "respect" for the dead up to and including worship became such a nigh-universal human norm over the last 35,000 years or so. On the surface it's easy to say "religion says humans are special", but that begs the question why worms eating our bodies is more religiously...well, kosher than dogs eating us. The Parsis seem ok with wild animals of course, but few people seem ok with pets and it's not like there are billions of Parsis.

To me feeding human bodies to animals which are directly useful to us makes more selective sense than feeding them to worms, and there aren't too many domesticated carnivores/omnivores. Feeding us to pigs we later eat might potentially risk some prion issues but even if plausible now, that would have been hard to work out in prehistoric times unless they had some seriously imaginative trials established.

There must be some reason for why such things arose. It may IMO have been a result of becoming gregarious in both larger and more static groups. While civilization started millennia after burial rituals, human population was already becoming more concentrated, not because of population pressure but because of selection of better feeding/hunting areas and the better success of larger groupings. What that meant is that more people in your "in-group" not only died per se, but died in areas where you were going to be hanging around for a while. Since, while there is no way to know, it seems reasonable that human brain power was developed enough to understand kinship with ingroup members, it was probably distasteful to see your brother/friend/"neighbor" putrefying and being fought over by animals. The ways to get rid of them more neatly and quickly were going to devolve pretty quickly to burying, burning or disposal in moving/deep water. Obviously speculative, but given the timing it seems to make some sense to me at any rate.

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Why is it serious? femmocrat Jan 2016 #1
Yes Renew Deal Jan 2016 #2
Guess I missed that. femmocrat Jan 2016 #3
So, this is a meta thread? demmiblue Jan 2016 #5
It's not offending Renew Deal Jan 2016 #10
I think that's a riff off the old joke that your cat would eat you if you died kcr Jan 2016 #73
well, eventually we run out of space for graveyards snooper2 Jan 2016 #8
So what. Giving animals human bodies is not appropriate yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #28
And giving them the bodies of other organic creatures is? Lancero Jan 2016 #33
Why? jberryhill Jan 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Godhumor Jan 2016 #9
Could you point to the thread in question? Coventina Jan 2016 #4
... Renew Deal Jan 2016 #12
Interesting. There is a tradition in Buddhism for such a thing. Coventina Jan 2016 #18
Interesting factoid... thanks. n/t demmiblue Jan 2016 #19
That *is* interesting! n/t bvf Jan 2016 #22
Feeding wild animals is one thing Mike__M Jan 2016 #23
Agreed. But, the basic concept is similar. Coventina Jan 2016 #24
And on a spiritual level, the thought is abhorrent on that scale. For those concerned... Shandris Jan 2016 #39
Well, but generosity is a spiritual practice for Buddhists. Coventina Jan 2016 #63
I would be fine with having my remains eaten by wild animals FrodosPet Jan 2016 #47
One's remains are going to be consumed one way or another pokerfan Jan 2016 #60
Google "sky burial" jberryhill Jan 2016 #57
Yes, please see my reply #18 Coventina Jan 2016 #64
Another Step Closer To Soylent Green.....nt global1 Jan 2016 #6
... 99Forever Jan 2016 #7
What do you know???? Who told you that I...I mean, no. I wouldn't do that. Godhumor Jan 2016 #11
lol Renew Deal Jan 2016 #15
Sure. Meat is meat whatthehey Jan 2016 #13
lol Renew Deal Jan 2016 #16
Only for the door buzzard n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2016 #14
Naturally Renew Deal Jan 2016 #17
That is what I was gonna say Kalidurga Jan 2016 #54
I suspect the door buzzard takes a bite every now and then kentauros Jan 2016 #56
a scene in "fried green tomatoes" comes to mind. niyad Jan 2016 #20
Also kind of reminds me of a scene in Bridget Jones's Diary . . . fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #31
Especially not to the door buzzard. She might get a taste for it, and then my callers would Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #21
No ShrimpPoboy Jan 2016 #25
Wait what? Xyzse Jan 2016 #26
The idea is just sick. LisaL Jan 2016 #27
Can someone explain in non-emotional terms the problem? whatthehey Jan 2016 #29
Social mores. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #34
Cannibalism? I love dogs, but they are not human and, Korea aside, not food whatthehey Jan 2016 #41
I bet it came along with belief in an afterlife. Mariana Jan 2016 #44
Or some judgement-day resurrection; a few Christian sects are historically against cremation .nt anigbrowl Jan 2016 #69
I'm not sure but it's also not permitted in LiberalElite Jan 2016 #71
The practical problem is secondary to what you are saying jberryhill Jan 2016 #55
far as I know as long as you cook meat to the proper temp. it's good to go! snooper2 Jan 2016 #76
I'd be afraid my cats might get teabagger in a can. Yeccchhhh. Vinca Jan 2016 #30
Sure. My pup thinks I'm delicious. nt B2G Jan 2016 #32
I wouldn't feed human remains to my cat meow2u3 Jan 2016 #35
Protein is protein FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #36
The law... to be disregarded as one's own leisure. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #40
Many laws and social mores of a vast majority of nations, tribes, and cultures forbade homosexuality FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #42
too many drugs and meds in most humans restorefreedom Jan 2016 #37
Would you be OK if the food came from Organic Free Range humans? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #43
in theory, i don't hsve an issue with willed body programs restorefreedom Jan 2016 #45
And give my cat Pinky the taste for human flesh? NightWatcher Jan 2016 #38
Don't Zoroastrians do something like that? closeupready Jan 2016 #46
Ah, you beat me to it Recursion Jan 2016 #74
I was juror #3. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2016 #48
It is in poor taste, but 17% think it's a good idea Renew Deal Jan 2016 #50
The Parsi community does that with their birds Recursion Jan 2016 #49
I expect that if I fall down the stairs and break my neck The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #51
A qualified yes, but... jberryhill Jan 2016 #52
I'm more partial to the plant food proposals. hunter Jan 2016 #53
Animals eating humans doesn't bother me, but I am not CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #58
Will the cans be labeled as non-tea-party or free-range-good -person? LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #61
Only if they're free range humans. No cube rats. temporary311 Jan 2016 #62
SOYLENT GREEN!! madinmaryland Jan 2016 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #66
*snort* pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #67
When I'm dead I will have no use for my body. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #68
Been doing so for years anigbrowl Jan 2016 #70
If it was healthy for my pet. geomon666 Jan 2016 #72
Which particular humans are we talking about here? pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #75
We'll start in the Lounge. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #80
Don't get stewed up over this poll. JonathanRackham Jan 2016 #77
Most human meat is pretty toxic. hunter Jan 2016 #78
Is it nutritious? I understand it tastes like pork (the other white meat) Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #79
Would you feed the remains of your pets to your guests for dinner? Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #81
I'm surprised practical issues of disease haven't been mentioned laundry_queen Jan 2016 #82
If I died I would not mind if my dog ate me. dilby Jan 2016 #83
People were going to eat my dog. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #85
Ugh, disgusting! How can you even think of serving that without condorments? pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #86
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