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173. I would rather live as one wife in middle-aged Christendom

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:37 PM

Jan 2016

than one of four wives in the present day Saudi Arabia.

Looking at it like that, I realize how freaking awful it would be to be a woman in Saudi Arabia, cause I sure as hell wouldn't relish being a woman in the middle ages!

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Do you think that some cultures are better than other cutlures? [View all] theboss Jan 2016 OP

Yes, and obviously so. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #1

I would change Saudi Arabia to the Middle East pipoman Jan 2016 #7

Yeah, the Saudis really love their womenfolk. valerief Jan 2016 #50

The rest of the Middle East is better? pipoman Jan 2016 #145

No, why would you think it is? nt valerief Jan 2016 #156

First post Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #71

Not sure that is obviously so. By 1865 the US culture was deeply promoting pollution, HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #79

Yogurt is the best culture. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #2

But real yogurt, not that Yo-plait stuff. randome Jan 2016 #8

Bullshit Glassunion Jan 2016 #14

Beer is culture too! Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #17

No. Beer is not culture. Glassunion Jan 2016 #23

Kimchee is the only true culture. MineralMan Jan 2016 #39

Ah shit, you beat me to it.... pangaia Jan 2016 #55

For me, kombucha is the best culture kentauros Jan 2016 #90

If by better, you mean are some cultures less oppressive than others, than yes. cali Jan 2016 #3

Yes leftynyc Jan 2016 #4

Yes, we could certainly learn something from TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #46

Yes, demonstrably. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #5

The cultural contribution to what happened in Abu Ghraib is obvious and undeniable. nt redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #24

Yes, and...? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #57

Women in those cultures participate in violence flamingdem Jan 2016 #25

Indeed. Their own worst enemies. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #58

A well cultured yeast can produce some damned fine beer. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #6

Yes arely staircase Jan 2016 #9

By my definition of 'better', yes. very much so. Bonx Jan 2016 #10

Absolutely Marrah_G Jan 2016 #11

It's not objective The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #12

I don't know, I'd say objectively that human sacrifice culture (Aztec etc) EX500rider Jan 2016 #103

unless you are cannibal or Aztec nobility arely staircase Jan 2016 #110

True but I think that's a matter more of perspective then objectivity. EX500rider Jan 2016 #114

As a practicing Christian I agree. arely staircase Jan 2016 #126

Yes the culture of kindness is better than the culture of Hate awake Jan 2016 #13

You win! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #15

Exactly. jwirr Jan 2016 #18

And which god is defining those cultures? The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #22

They are all defined by the Human Hart awake Jan 2016 #26

"They are all defined by the Human Hart" jberryhill Jan 2016 #34

Buddhism IS an excellent culture, I agree. MineralMan Jan 2016 #41

And just how far have women's rights and LGBT rights TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #47

more context is needed for a proper perspective TheSarcastinator Jan 2016 #94

I think LGBT folks would be much more welcomed by New England Episcopalians than Tibetan arely staircase Jan 2016 #113

No it isn't, I knew a Buddhist who studied to be a Nun, she was born here... Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #122

"From a Buddhist point of view, men-to-men and women-to-women is generally considered sexual arely staircase Jan 2016 #131

That religion isn't perfect either. N/t gollygee Jan 2016 #139

Lovely post. hifiguy Jan 2016 #121

Without question. linuxman Jan 2016 #16

I think Culture Club rocked in the 80's SummerSnow Jan 2016 #19

Ha! They rocked last summer when I saw them, too! WinkyDink Jan 2016 #124

I think the culture that brought the holocaust, carpet bombing and nuclear warfare into the world .. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #20

Very good point mwrguy Jan 2016 #53

But we don't support or want the carpet bombing etc Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2016 #129

The Iraq war had plenty of support from "enlightened" Europeans and Americans. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #167

Collateral damage in a campaign of shock and awe to win their hearts and minds Fumesucker Jan 2016 #172

When they took the survey in the UK Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2016 #182

We can't overlook human/civil rights, medical advances, etc. Yes, it will forever be WinkyDink Jan 2016 #132

Warfare is ugly in all cultures. EX500rider Jan 2016 #150

I actually have to say I'm surprised (and pleased) by the responses here theboss Jan 2016 #21

Well, you probably are in many ways. hunter Jan 2016 #142

SO that was what you wanted to happen? Rex Jan 2016 #161

Unquestionably yes LittleBlue Jan 2016 #27

...+1 840high Jan 2016 #180

The only tricky concept there is "better" whatthehey Jan 2016 #28

When it comes to women's, gay rights etc., "Western culture" is at best barely a generation ahead. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #30

The US has never elected a woman president, in contrast to the Pakistanis, who elected a woman PM jberryhill Jan 2016 #35

And you'd rather be a woman in Pakistan? TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #49

No jberryhill Jan 2016 #59

She lives in England, now, with good reason TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #61

It seems Malala prefers to live in a culture where men don't shoot girls for going to school. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #72

...and then they killed her, to be fair whatthehey Jan 2016 #93

she was part of a political family with power. same with indira gandhi JI7 Jan 2016 #97

Much of the world has had a female leader at one time or another davidn3600 Jan 2016 #184

Western culture just a generation ahead? katsy Jan 2016 #60

A quick browse of the Wikipedia page on LGBT rights in Europe ... redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #165

When was the last stoning of a woman who committed adulatory here? katsy Jan 2016 #171

Yes, absolutely. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #175

Centuries whatthehey Jan 2016 #69

"Wanting to maintain ingroup cohesion in the face of ethic diversity"...... Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #40

Not quite. They are pretty much by definition AGAINST ethnically diverse ingroups. whatthehey Jan 2016 #66

Absolutely. To pretend otherwise is ridiculous. PeteSelman Jan 2016 #29

If they actually live up to the standards that they proclaim that is. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #32

That's just business. PeteSelman Jan 2016 #37

"Liberalism, except when it interferes with business" - I guess that neatly sums it up. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #42

Go over there and try to live like you do here. PeteSelman Jan 2016 #54

Standards of living is not the entirety of "culture". redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #166

Yes. whathehell Jan 2016 #31

Yes. It's fucking stupid to pretend otherwise. Codeine Jan 2016 #33

It's like religion The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #44

Absolutely. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #36

Why yes, of course, mine is the best. nt bemildred Jan 2016 #38

Does better in this context mean more righteous? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #43

Women being allowed to drive is a good start. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #52

Hell, yeah! TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #45

Absolutely. Culture Club rules! KamaAina Jan 2016 #48

If a culture encourages mysogyny and bigotry katsy Jan 2016 #51

Over 70% of Pakistanis support stoning to death as a punishment for adultery. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #65

My mistake. It is cultural. katsy Jan 2016 #68

Based upon this, I would say absolutely. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #176

I'm an equal opportunity hater of all human cultures. hunter Jan 2016 #56

Yes. SamKnause Jan 2016 #62

In my idea of ethics d_r Jan 2016 #63

So basically. deathrind Jan 2016 #64

An Islamic father helped stone his own daughter to death for adultery. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #73

And... deathrind Jan 2016 #77

Muslim culture supports death for women committing adultery Bonx Jan 2016 #78

Have you ever read deathrind Jan 2016 #80

Have you ever read the news ? Bonx Jan 2016 #82

Yes... deathrind Jan 2016 #86

If you're changing the subject Bonx Jan 2016 #95

U are right.. deathrind Jan 2016 #100

Thank you for agreeing. Bonx Jan 2016 #101

You are welcome. deathrind Jan 2016 #102

I have already qualified that 'better' not a universally accepted condition. Bonx Jan 2016 #107

Out of curiosity. deathrind Jan 2016 #117

Our 'Federal / State / Local law enforcement structure (as most developed countries do)' Bonx Jan 2016 #127

Ok deathrind Jan 2016 #136

Over 70% of Pakistanis support adulterers being stoned to death. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #104

We discarded those rules centuries ago LittleBlue Jan 2016 #143

It is still in the book. N/T deathrind Jan 2016 #146

Our societal rules and laws aren't based on that book, though LittleBlue Jan 2016 #152

Homosexuality was not legal nationwide in the USA until 2003. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #170

yes, absotively Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #134

I think some cultures are better at some things than others. bluedigger Jan 2016 #67

As many other have said: Yes - obviously Coventina Jan 2016 #70

Diet or other particulars aside, the majority culture claims accommodation rights to demand minority ancianita Jan 2016 #74

Sure - for example demwing Jan 2016 #75

Yes. kiva Jan 2016 #76

yeppers EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #81

Absolutely philosslayer Jan 2016 #83

Name one other culture that doesn't have blood on its hands XemaSab Jan 2016 #85

Are you using the atrocities committed by western culture katsy Jan 2016 #88

Same poster suggested the attacks were by tanned white men. SolutionisSolidarity Jan 2016 #141

Nope philosslayer Jan 2016 #144

This wasn't you agreeing this was a false flag op? SolutionisSolidarity Jan 2016 #147

You said.... philosslayer Jan 2016 #151

Yeah I got the "but everyone katsy Jan 2016 #185

Well, the thread is about *comparing* cultures. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #183

The western justice system IS superior katsy Jan 2016 #186

The United States of America Angel Martin Jan 2016 #89

You forgot the little sarcasm thingy. Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2016 #137

America TeddyR Jan 2016 #96

Genuine question: what do you see as the relationship between culture and government? whatthehey Jan 2016 #98

And German Culture was responsible for genocide. As was Cambodian Culture and Tutsi culture cali Jan 2016 #108

"The American culture has been responsible for slavery". Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #111

The African slave trade was an Arabic trade for centuries before any European fell so low. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #140

Of course!!! No one here would want to live in midde-aged Christendom. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #84

I would rather live as one wife in middle-aged Christendom TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #173

Yes. Those that treat women better, respect nature and science, Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #87

Absolutely HassleCat Jan 2016 #91

Yeah, but I'm biased. Iggo Jan 2016 #92

There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsche Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #99

Immigrants who don't travel in rape packs are better than those who do theboss Jan 2016 #105

Would that apply to non-immigrants who travel in rape packs? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #112

Can you come up with an example? I mean, from this century and not the 13th? WinkyDink Jan 2016 #125

Of course. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #138

To make the statistics have value, kiva Jan 2016 #153

I define rape as forcing anyone, for any reason, to participate in sexual acts they don't want to. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #159

In the U.S. a woman can go to a bar alone, kiva Jan 2016 #181

There are criminal elements across ALL cultures BUT katsy Jan 2016 #154

Post not found. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #158

Updated link katsy Jan 2016 #163

I don't think so much better but maybe more advanced? treestar Jan 2016 #106

How many Iraqi's died as a result of the Iraq War? closeupready Jan 2016 #109

I will answer, to put a lie to your accusations.... Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #120

Too many. None. None. ck4829 Jan 2016 #130

thank you. just ... thank you. closeupready Jan 2016 #155

Oh yes, I'm a humanist, any culture that values human lives and human rights over authoritarianism.. Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #115

Beyond any possible question. hifiguy Jan 2016 #116

can we avoid the arrogance attached to we is better than you bullshit dembotoz Jan 2016 #118

hypocrisy Matrosov Jan 2016 #119

Homosexuality was not legal nationwide in the USA until 2003. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #169

Yes. I have zero qualms about asserting so. WinkyDink Jan 2016 #123

Better is not a well-defined term, but the answer to most clarifications of the question is "yes". Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #128

What a dilemma! Quantess Jan 2016 #133

in some respects, yes, but the story is always more complicated La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2016 #135

Amen, Goddess. closeupready Jan 2016 #157

Recommendation #2! H2O Man Jan 2016 #148

�What Do You Think of Western Civilization?� mwrguy Jan 2016 #149

Why would the more educated party have problems with a subjective question? Rex Jan 2016 #160

When comparing the culture I am from to another, one of two things usually applies Blecht Jan 2016 #162

Yes. I'm a feminist. I've never been a multi-culturelist n/t Dems to Win Jan 2016 #164

Approval for killing civilians is higher in the USA and Israel than most other countries. redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #168

It doesn't matter katsy Jan 2016 #179

I used to think no... bdwker Jan 2016 #174

Yes. I think New England culture is better than Southern Culture jberryhill Jan 2016 #177

Yes, absolutely. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #178