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Proserpina

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79. Funny you should ask---I started a rewrite this summer
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

When the Founding Fathers were writing the US Constitution, they concerned themselves with clearly delineating lines of Power and Property, because those were the areas in which they felt abused by the English Crown. They left some flexibility for development in these areas, following the guidelines they set to start the formulation.

They were on the verge of concerning themselves with Human Rights, and took a piecemeal stab at it, but since the concept itself didn't exist in full form (hence slavery, no rights for women, minority groups, etc) only men of property, preferably white and Christian, were considered fully human and entitled to basic rights.

But now that we've had couple hundred years of experience with the Constitution, and a couple hundred years of development in legal thought and the impact of technology on Power, Property and Human Rights, it's time for Constitution 2.0.


One thing that the 2.0 version requires is a better sense of order. Which comes first? Human rights, civil rights, property rights, power? My own preference is that they be prioritized in that order. I might even go so far as to add Commons Rights, to cover issues about ecology, pollution, natural resources, etc. at the very top. The original immigrants had no idea of waste: nothing went into trash. They never thought we might need rules about recycling!

Very well then.

Commons Rights: this is best expressed by the Biblical injunction to “replenish the earth”. Since we have only one planet that supports all our lives, we need to absolutely take care of it. Earth is our Commons, to be shared (equally) by all its children: human, animal, plant.

1. GENOMES While certain species such as polio virus or bacterial pneumonia may be eliminated without causing any harm to the rest, the designation of Undesirable/Disposable is to be rare and well researched before any species-wide genocide is undertaken. The same criteria will apply to genetic sports: unless specific designation as Undesirable attaches to a mutation, the precept is “Live and Let Live.” Similarly, genetic engineering is to be tightly controlled, if not banned. If the improvements cannot result from the usual breeding techniques, perhaps we don't want them to happen at all. These decisions should be made by universal polling. It isn't the right of any subgroup, be it government or corporate, to make such decisions for the whole planet. Such a planetary franchise will require some rethinking of the United Nations, for sure. There are New World Orders that could serve People, and this is what we should be building.

2. POLLUTION: While there are many kinds of pollution, some are worse than others. Those forms of pollution for which we have not developed techniques for recycling shall be banned:

1. Nuclear products in commercial quantities with half-life in excess of a couple weeks, or some similar standard. This eliminates nuclear power generation and nuclear warfare, including depleted uranium armor and shells.
2. Artificial chemical compounds: CFC and similar manufactured molecules that don't break down by natural processes in a reasonable amount of time. This covers most plastics, too.
3. Water shall be cleaned after use—period. If polluted bodies of water can be cleaned, they shall be.
4. Combustion shall be limited and its byproducts must be naturally recyclable. The point of emission must be limited in output to what the local environment handle on an hourly basis. Air shall not be defiled with particulates, poisonous fumes, chemically reactive compounds beyond oxygen, ozone (in appropriate quantities) and water.
5. Land and soil shall be conserved. Buildings will be energy efficient and sized appropriately...no more mansions and manors for ostentatious living, no wasting of fertile land. Soil that is farmed shall be replenished by crop rotation, regeneration, etc. More topsoil shall be made of plant and animal wastes, which are currently “wasted,” to repair past soil damage. Poisoning of the soil by heavy metals and mining waste shall be prevented and ameliorated, as we start to restore the earth. If deserts can be made to sustain plant life without human intervention after reconstruction of the ecosystem, then they can be restored as well.
6. WAR. War is the greatest pollutant we have: far worse than the automobiles and planes. It is also the chief user of nuclear products. War must go.
7. Human wastes. We have a lot of good techniques; they must be applied without exception. Improvements in recycling human waste, including bodies, once vetted, shall be implemented.
8. Man-Made trash shall be broken down to recyclable elements and reused. No landfills, no dumps.

3. Human Rights. These are rights to which each human, of any level of life, are entitled, regardless of age, sex, health, education, socio-economic level, nationality, or any other categorization that divides us.

1. Life: the right to life, once given at birth, is not rescinded by Man or Institution.
2. Liberty: the right of an individual to be an autonomous free agent, unbound to any group, cannot be taken away by any other person or institution, once that individual reaches a maturity level that the People agree to be sufficient to make decisions. The age of maturity may vary according to the situation, but the best might be age of sexual maturity, to ensure the autonomy of women over their own lives and bodies. Of course, individuals may join groups, but they shall be allowed to change their minds and leave without legal entanglements once property issues are resolved. I believe that basic human rights, freely exercised, will eliminate most crimes of passion, property and abuse of power, and hence, the need for prisons.

3.


to be continued, in my spare time

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So how would you amend the constitution? [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 OP
I would add an amendment making "Walk This Way" the national anthem jberryhill Jan 2016 #1
"Born In The USA" Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #31
We Will Rock You Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #104
no just no dlwickham Jan 2016 #103
You take that cap off and stand up with hand-on-heart when you hear Steven Tyler sing. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #156
Ban on all religions FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #2
Yeah TeddyR Jan 2016 #10
At least dissolve the tax-free status and education vouchers from tax dollars lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #63
Bingo. Got my vote on that one. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #112
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #138
I would be against forcing anyone SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #142
Only if we can count capitalism as a religion. frizzled Jan 2016 #133
Good point! Capitalism, the way it's practiced, is damn evil too! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #136
Snicker nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #3
That drill is one weekend a month and a week, once a year. -none Jan 2016 #58
mr abbott is deranged spanone Jan 2016 #4
A simple clarification hifiguy Jan 2016 #5
So a Republican Congress could prohibit publishers from publishing certain books? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #25
Yes jberryhill Jan 2016 #36
+1 jwirr Jan 2016 #39
Remove Texas as a state if that shithead doesnt step down randys1 Jan 2016 #6
They left once already and Yupster Jan 2016 #7
Texas is probably 7-10% on the national economy good choice. nt SpookyDem Jan 2016 #27
True but our national IQ would jump around 12 points and people wouldn't... BlueJazz Jan 2016 #54
I'd remove New York TeddyR Jan 2016 #76
Don't forget North and South Dakota ShrimpPoboy Jan 2016 #82
It's a start, but how about we remove any state which ever hosted a "Real Housewives of..." variant, petronius Jan 2016 #85
So TeddyR Jan 2016 #90
No no: as I said, California gets a pass. There may be additional unspecified petronius Jan 2016 #92
Term limits for all federal offices Yupster Jan 2016 #8
Good catch on the electoral college. hifiguy Jan 2016 #11
If there are term limits for office holders, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #18
Term limits are built into the system. -none Jan 2016 #60
Term limits are built into what system? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #61
Each congress critter hires their own staff. -none Jan 2016 #74
Of course you are right, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #77
I agree with that. -none Jan 2016 #81
I disagree Yupster Jan 2016 #102
The only reason I am not in favor of term limits, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #105
And, if it's not staffers it's ALEC & lobbyists dmr Jan 2016 #167
Staff AND lobbyists loyalsister Jan 2016 #169
all for electoral college removal otherwise its good as is. nt SpookyDem Jan 2016 #28
Also, mandatory retirement age for Federal judges and justices LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #57
Term limits, and one electoral vote per state plus one for DC. nt cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #119
DC Statehood Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #132
Funny thing about the Electoral College 1939 Jan 2016 #164
Incumbancy is the only real advantage Dems have loyalsister Jan 2016 #175
I'm fine with it just the way it is. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #9
Agreed! TeddyR Jan 2016 #12
For the zillionth time (granted, not to you): truebluegreen Jan 2016 #96
K&R this post! KansDem Jan 2016 #153
Same here n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #14
Leave as is n/t Angel Martin Jan 2016 #52
I doubt a CC would accomplish much in the current climate. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #158
ERA and librechik Jan 2016 #13
Maybe TeddyR Jan 2016 #16
You do realize that if the 2nd was repealed Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #20
"You say you'll H2O Man Jan 2016 #15
Revise, not repeal, the Second. KamaAina Jan 2016 #17
Also get rid of "Congress shall make no law..." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #56
It isn't TeddyR Jan 2016 #83
add something about the right to vote shall not be impinged nt msongs Jan 2016 #19
give us a parliamentary system instead of the incoherent mess we currently have. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #21
You have a very good point, hifiguy Jan 2016 #23
Our system encourages corruption geek tragedy Jan 2016 #24
Especially since impeachment is increasingly confused with a no confidence vote Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #32
+everything. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #157
Your comment about no one else on the planet is not really true Massacure Jan 2016 #173
ah, that's a good point. Though I would point out that outside Latin America geek tragedy Jan 2016 #176
What a MAROON!! madinmaryland Jan 2016 #22
Eliminate the Second Amendment. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #26
At a minimum, I'd amend it to further define "regulated" Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #33
Nah, I am going to. Sorry. jwirr Jan 2016 #40
I would not amend any of it (nt) bigwillq Jan 2016 #29
Replace the 2nd and 13th Amendment with this 47of74 Jan 2016 #30
I'll summarize my 9. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #34
Thank you 47of74 Jan 2016 #35
I like most of this but I do not want term limits because some jwirr Jan 2016 #41
I respect that Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #66
That makes sense. jwirr Jan 2016 #68
18 years is a good time for SC Justices too SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #107
Very well taken point. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #108
This largely guts free speech protection for journalism and media organizations. dairydog91 Jan 2016 #43
I think efforts to eliminate corporate personhood fail for this reason Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #69
As long as you have the kind of SCOTUS we have now we need an amendment... 47of74 Jan 2016 #147
The issue could be addressed directly without taking speech rights away Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #152
An Amendment Enshrining, among other things, the right to privacy penumbra from Griswold Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #37
I agree with a RTP amendment Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #118
The Confederate States Constitution had an interesting wrinkle 1939 Jan 2016 #38
That would take a lot of wind out of the sails of the House. jwirr Jan 2016 #42
Based on 1939 Jan 2016 #47
I suspect the south was correct regarding the tariff money. jwirr Jan 2016 #55
Pork is what made government work. jeff47 Jan 2016 #159
#1. Proportional Representation- to get rid of gerrymandering KittyWampus Jan 2016 #44
Several Ideas... SDJay Jan 2016 #45
Massively. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #46
Why would you TeddyR Jan 2016 #80
Why wouldn't you? truebluegreen Jan 2016 #99
It was part of the "grand bargain" 1939 Jan 2016 #165
Two questions: why is there an amendment process truebluegreen Jan 2016 #177
Okay 1939 Jan 2016 #180
2 answers truebluegreen Jan 2016 #181
Why would you give less power to people from larger states? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #110
Outlaw capitalism. PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #48
Ha TeddyR Jan 2016 #86
I wouldn't mind a balanced budget amendment NobodyHere Jan 2016 #49
I like the amendment Warren Buffett proposed somewhat tounge in cheek Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #71
Awful idea. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #100
I think every balanced budget proposition ever written has had a time-of-war out clause Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #117
OK. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #141
You'd have to issue a war declaration. Nobody does that anymore for whatever reason. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #144
Terrible idea. jeff47 Jan 2016 #160
I would extend the right of privacy and free speech to the workplace. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #50
"No descendent of Prescott Bush shall be eligible for or hold Federal office" Retrograde Jan 2016 #51
One interesting thing I saw recently was a map of redrawn state lines with equal populations Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #73
I'm down with that. 47of74 Jan 2016 #149
Repeal the 3rd!!! QUARTER TROOPS!!! underpants Jan 2016 #53
LOL! nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #59
I love the 3rd amendment. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #72
I'm glad TeddyR Jan 2016 #84
I know you're kidding underpants Jan 2016 #93
No, absolutely not! Soldiers have as much right as any of us to be protected from petronius Jan 2016 #95
I know this is nuts matt819 Jan 2016 #62
I'll see your "nuts" and raise you Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #70
corporations are NOT people. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #64
Right with you. Also I'd add an express & stringent conflict of interest prohibition JudyM Jan 2016 #75
Audits of all govt spending; prohibition of (1) conflicts of interest & (2) falsifying "news" JudyM Jan 2016 #88
ABSOLUTELY!.. Job #1!. . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2016 #125
Re-draw congressional districts on a physical grid that does not change, ever. lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #65
Would districts remain the same even as population changes? NobodyHere Jan 2016 #109
There would be ways around that, still. Deliberately 'stacking the deck' of a district with... randome Jan 2016 #116
See post 120 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #130
End statute of limitations on assault, and write a equal rights amendment for women, gltg lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #67
Get rid of the 2nd. mwrguy Jan 2016 #78
The First too TeddyR Jan 2016 #87
We could just clarify the Second Amendment, e.g. to something more like Delaware's petronius Jan 2016 #91
That's very thorough TeddyR Jan 2016 #94
Funny you should ask---I started a rewrite this summer Proserpina Jan 2016 #79
Enshrine protection of the living environment to be among the highest purposes of the state, cheapdate Jan 2016 #89
A few ways krispos42 Jan 2016 #97
See post 120 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #128
Do away with the Electoral College. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #98
Where does the 'artificial persons' come from? Fear or a need for a new round of slavery? randome Jan 2016 #115
Artificial personhood is a term truebluegreen Jan 2016 #140
Instant Runoff Voting. Simple. Done. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #101
In a more general sense -- update the document to reflect two centuries of technological advancement Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #127
I would remove the "prisoners can be slaves" line in the 13th am. Sunlei Jan 2016 #106
Me too 47of74 Jan 2016 #148
Imagine what America could be,if prisons were non-profit & prison slavery was unconstitutional. Sunlei Jan 2016 #150
Scrap it all and become a dictator. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #111
Brilliant! Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #113
Abolish the House of Representatives. Expand the Senate to maybe 200 reps. randome Jan 2016 #114
See post 120 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #131
This is for several of you that have commented in various ways about gerrymandering/redistricting, e Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #120
Ban indoor football and Astroturf taterguy Jan 2016 #121
Are you kidding -- look how much better the Vikes have gotten in their short time in TCF Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #123
Propositions I was surprised I didn't see/didn't see more of Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #122
amazing that i didnt see ERA mentioned up thread... JanMichael Jan 2016 #124
It's in a few posts Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #126
Burn it, don't write another one. frizzled Jan 2016 #129
Disagree 100% TeddyR Jan 2016 #134
Agreed. We should not worship a piece of paper but adhere to the concepts it spells out. randome Jan 2016 #135
We can't get some states TeddyR Jan 2016 #143
Make the presidential campaign public funded and have a 60 day period for doc03 Jan 2016 #137
Change the senate to reflect population. OnionPatch Jan 2016 #139
That's the nature of the 'grand compromise' HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #145
I do understand that. OnionPatch Jan 2016 #146
It does create one venue where tyranny of the majority can't be practiced HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #161
1 Protect the right to peacefully grow and use plants. WDIM Jan 2016 #151
My problem with #2 is that it invites corruption Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #155
Corporations are not people. Money is not speech. The ERA is law. senz Jan 2016 #154
men are corruptable jeepers Jan 2016 #162
No gerrymandering. Vinca Jan 2016 #163
Make the 2A an unquestionable individual right. ileus Jan 2016 #166
make 2A so even REALLY STUPID PEOPLE can understand it Skittles Jan 2016 #168
I agree SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #170
Might as well give the 2a crowd something to complain about for the next few years BainsBane Jan 2016 #171
I would most definitely NOT loyalsister Jan 2016 #172
term limits for Supreme Court Justices. nt clarice Jan 2016 #174
I wouldn't fiddle with it very saltpoint Jan 2016 #178
I can think of a few things. backscatter712 Jan 2016 #179
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