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2naSalit

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Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jan 2016

link to the Western Watersheds Project is misinterpreted in your comment. You may have that opinion of what they are doing but that is not fact. The WWP is advocating for removal of ecosystem destroying cattle grazing on public lands. If you don't have enough room on your property to graze your cows, you have too many cows. And look what they do to the landscape, they ruin it for years by trampling riparian areas and killing off entire fisheries, importing invasive exotic species of vegetation and bugs not to mention the brucella abortis problem that bison have been blamed for and killed over when it was cattle that brought that here and passed it to bison and elk (Spoiler alert, elk pass it back to cattle not bison).

It's really quite simple to understand and regardless of your opinion, the fact is that western state ranchers wouldn't be viable as businesses if not for the massive subsidies allowed them. Not misleading at all.

What this whole argument can be boiled down to is that the cattle industry had its way in the west for about a hundred years and when that era ended, the cattle industry tried to stop it but since they are losing their deathgrip on control of the local governing bodies and public land they are having a massive temper tantrum and the Bundys are a prime example of the tantrum.

get over it, adapt.

It would not be easy (if even possible) to do without hurting innocent ranchers. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #1
Yep. hunter Jan 2016 #10
exactly! Kali Jan 2016 #16
They aren't from Oregon. underpants Jan 2016 #2
Wait a minnit!1 Oregon ain't the culprit (these days), it's the Radical Mormons from elsewhere!1 n/t UTUSN Jan 2016 #3
Don't Take It Out On Oregon Ranchers As These Malheur Protesters Are From Out Of State.... global1 Jan 2016 #4
unless they direct-market or are part of some co-op or other entity that does direct, Kali Jan 2016 #5
Trying to buy locally sourced beef is probably the best choice anyway csziggy Jan 2016 #7
yeah, there is starting to be more local beef in the upper end stores Kali Jan 2016 #13
Well, the food co-op started out as a true co-op back in the 1960s csziggy Jan 2016 #14
Almost any local butcher shop works. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #23
I'm not sure there are any local butcher shops left around here csziggy Jan 2016 #25
Yep, it's complicated. hunter Jan 2016 #17
I love your family stories. Kali Jan 2016 #19
No reason to hurt "real" ranchers who pay their bills leftofcool Jan 2016 #6
A boycott of beef 2naSalit Jan 2016 #8
this is a little misleading, Kali Jan 2016 #15
the 2naSalit Jan 2016 #18
I am a rancher and I have a slight clue what I am talking about. Kali Jan 2016 #20
I have known the 2naSalit Jan 2016 #21
obviously I could say the exact same thing to you Kali Jan 2016 #22
Because an AZ businessman invaded Oregon. Yeah, we Oregonians really like you too now! L. Coyote Jan 2016 #9
Free range cattle catnhatnh Jan 2016 #11
So hopefully you've been educated and will be less quick to suggest onenote Jan 2016 #12
Would be funny if they got home and all their leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #24
Those creeps aren't Oregonians, and as a matter of fact, MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #26
they don't want us to have county of origin listed let alone state dembotoz Jan 2016 #27
Those are cranks are from Nevada and Arizona, they are not Oregon ranchers at all. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #28
Why Oregon? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #29
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