General Discussion

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)

78. I'm thankful I was not old enough to serve,

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:20 AM

Jan 2016

because being young, gullible and easily intimidated, I would have doubtless gone along and helped in the slaughter of the Indochinese peoples and the decimation of their countries, just like most of the other young men who were drafted. I know myself well enough to be certain, however, that I would have never been proud of what I had done.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

110 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Wearing unearned medals is protected by 1st Amendment, appeals court rules [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 OP

This is BULLSHIT!!!!! GGJohn Jan 2016 #1

^ What he said! Docreed2003 Jan 2016 #3

Not just A medal. It was the Purple Heart. pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #8

That makes it even worse in my eyes. GGJohn Jan 2016 #10

He also has worn other medals, including the Silver Star pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #23

Jeez, and this poseur thought he'd get away with this? GGJohn Jan 2016 #25

Agreed DustyJoe Jan 2016 #50

I understand your anger, but I think criminalizing the wearing of fake medals went too far. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #11

If they can't be criminally punished, GGJohn Jan 2016 #16

Shame is always legal. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #22

That's the way to go. Orsino Jan 2016 #93

The defendant claimed: Silver Star, Purple Heart, Navy & Marine Corps Medal with Gold Star, & more Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #12

Navy and Marine Corps Medal with Gold Star? jmowreader Jan 2016 #81

...and wrote a book about his (imaginary) exploits Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #100

I saw that too jmowreader Jan 2016 #101

So that means anyone GP6971 Jan 2016 #13

I think people who wear unearned medals are a tad nuts. Just a little off---and I'm serious. virgogal Jan 2016 #33

A "tad" is too kind GP6971 Jan 2016 #43

Like these guys? hughee99 Jan 2016 #73

At least he made himself an Admiral. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #97

I do too Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #28

K&R JonathanRackham Jan 2016 #76

Posers, fairly obvious, and mostly harmless. hunter Jan 2016 #98

After reading all the comments, including yours, and having slept on it, GGJohn Jan 2016 #99

How about Nazi uniforms jberryhill Jan 2016 #105

Please see post #99. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #106

I can't believe this. cwydro Jan 2016 #2

Whoever made that ruling has no freaking clue how seriously we, as vets, GGJohn Jan 2016 #4

My first thought was that... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #20

It is a slap in the face to those who serve and have served LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #29

I'd be willing to bet on it. cwydro Jan 2016 #34

I'm sure it's taken seriously, but one of the things vets fight to defend is the Constitution and Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #55

I agree with what you said Mariana Jan 2016 #57

No, I'm just trying to brainstorm some way to respect the vets clear wishes on this matter while Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #62

You know, I served in the Navy Mariana Jan 2016 #65

Good points, all. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #70

Then you raise the potential for a Soviet-style Stripping of Decorations scenario jmowreader Jan 2016 #82

Then approbation will have to do, because the 1st Amendment protects the right of people to do this. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #83

The law needs to be determined on the constitution, not feelings Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #56

Ok, you're right, it's just that every medal I earned and was awarded, I did it honestly GGJohn Jan 2016 #58

I'm astounded by this decision... Docreed2003 Jan 2016 #5

This might be unpopular, but I agree with the courts ruling... actslikeacarrot Jan 2016 #6

I agree melman Jan 2016 #14

Well, I disagree with you, but if they can't be criminally punished, GGJohn Jan 2016 #17

Any asshole can wander around with a medal they "say" they earned, even if it is lie... madinmaryland Jan 2016 #7

Agreed Democat Jan 2016 #86

I got a Good Conduct Medal after 4 looooong years. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #9

I blew my chance at the Good Conduct about 5 months before I was eligible for it. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #18

Fortunately, most of my crimes went undiscovered. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #21

One of my buddies gave the best answer to the retention interview hobbit709 Jan 2016 #27

I'm thankful I was not old enough to serve, ronnie624 Jan 2016 #78

So is shaming people who wear unearned medals as valor thieves. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #15

The First Amendment protects stuff that is repugnant as well as stuff that we all agree with. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #19

Popular speech needs no protection- by definition. Much as I hate it in this case, I agree. n/t X_Digger Jan 2016 #24

Well, I can finally come out of the closet. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #26

Lol. Ok Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #75

Excellent. ronnie624 Jan 2016 #30

What I have to say to you would get me a hide and a time out, GGJohn Jan 2016 #32

Don't even bother. cwydro Jan 2016 #35

Judging by the 'logic' behind most of your posts, ronnie624 Jan 2016 #36

Your opinion, however putrid it is. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #37

Maybe after you puke, ronnie624 Jan 2016 #40

I admire their sacrifice lancer78 Jan 2016 #49

you think most of the vets here are worshipping the military? hobbit709 Jan 2016 #39

I think our culture worships militarism, ronnie624 Jan 2016 #44

These laws are a recent phenomenon. Mariana Jan 2016 #80

. sarisataka Jan 2016 #41

For what it's worth gratuitous Jan 2016 #45

It leads to fascism. That's how we have gotten where we are today. CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #60

So if it is "speech" then sue for libel and making false statements awake Jan 2016 #31

Making false statements isn't a crime Mariana Jan 2016 #63

Ya I did not think it through awake Jan 2016 #71

It only gets ya elected. JonathanRackham Jan 2016 #77

I think pissing on one of these pukes sarisataka Jan 2016 #38

Probably not, but ridiculing them on Youtube is probably even more effective: Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #42

That would be assault, which is illegal. ronnie624 Jan 2016 #47

If veterans don't have the law to turn to... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #67

People are proud of, and offended by, lots of things jberryhill Jan 2016 #104

I couldn't do anything like that ..It's creepy. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #46

I am surprised in a Forum lancer78 Jan 2016 #48

+1. n/t ronnie624 Jan 2016 #51

If you take careful note SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #64

Lots of free speech is disgusting but not illegal alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #52

Simple fact is, the 1st Amendment protects your right to be a lying sack of shit. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #53

Will the government stop giving out medals? old guy Jan 2016 #54

It has always been the case Mariana Jan 2016 #69

If the person does not gain something from it I don't really care. Nt Logical Jan 2016 #59

Good ruling. Everytime they pass one of those laws that elevate one type of citizen above another CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #61

A medal is an award. It is the expressed opinion of an authorized body that determines whether Monk06 Jan 2016 #66

It's already been to the Supreme Court anigbrowl Jan 2016 #72

Well first I'm not angry. I'm a Canadian and this has no effect on me at all. I just think the Monk06 Jan 2016 #107

As a veteran, my attitude is the same as for flag burning: Aristus Jan 2016 #68

Sanity prevails LittleBlue Jan 2016 #74

I agree with this ruling. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #79

I think last time this went before SCOTUS they got it right Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #84

What about preventing non-Christians from wearing crosses? Democat Jan 2016 #85

Does that mean, it's legal for me to fake academic credentials? DetlefK Jan 2016 #87

You are free to wear a school uniform if you want Democat Jan 2016 #88

"Well, it's not my fault you didn't check my background whether I'm a real doctor." DetlefK Jan 2016 #90

Telling people I'm a doctor when I'm not is entirely legal, Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #92

That happens all the time. Orrex Jan 2016 #91

Actually, it's not illegal at all for you Mariana Jan 2016 #94

It's crap, it's offensive, and its dishonest, but it's legal. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #89

In most circumstances I think this is spot on. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #95

This is entirely the correct decision. NYC Liberal Jan 2016 #96

The Marsh Morans all legitimately deserve a medal PeoViejo Jan 2016 #102

Lying and Buying seems to be all our courts protect. nt valerief Jan 2016 #103

These people are scum. The First Amendment is there to protect scum. tritsofme Jan 2016 #108

The SCOTUS approves of stolen honor MrScorpio Jan 2016 #109

That's the most contemptible type of attack on freedom of speech. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #110