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delrem

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5. I imagine that there are places, Florida seems to be one,

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:43 AM

Jan 2016

where just about all of the progressive democratic infrastructure required for success has been eliminated or beaten down to mincemeat. This DWS seems to be quite some number.

I'm especially aware of how difficult it must be for a progressive Dem Floridian to speak on these matters - and I don't equate time spent by wordsmiths such as you on considering how that heavy lifting can be done with some kind of hesitation due to "fear" (referring to my other post). The opposite in fact - you're a leader.

But if a Floridian has claimed to be a progressive, and has done stuff in a specifically Dem "progressive caucus" or "group" in the past, it's past time for them to publicly endorse Sanders - or forever hold their peace. And this is true across the entire USA. It's most emphatically true of the highest ranking Dem "progressive caucus", the ones now in elected office.

Else wtf?

The time is now, it'll be too late tomorrow.

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I imagine that there are places, Florida seems to be one, delrem Jan 2016 #5

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