BUSTED: Guess What The Bundy Militia Was Doing While They Were Not In Gunfights With The FBI

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133. Tunnel visioned a bit? Maye focus it on the badges, then,

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and read those.

Of course the feds have enough to put these terminal jerks away "for decades." The tragedy isn't that they won't be, barring their killing someone. That's how it should be. Maybe away for a few years, but decades in prison for insurrectionist silliness? We're not a fascist state yet. (I would favor saddling them with the total bill for this, and they could start working it off in prison; if the remainder turned out to be a life sentence, too bad!)

You're mistakenly equating this with very different situations. Here are some words for you, Lordquinton: Ferguson Police Department. Ferguson City Council. St. Louis County Prosecutor.

Please think about it. By far most of cop-on-citizen tragedies happen to people who are targeted by out-of-control local authorities. That is what I said before -- not that race "has nothing to do with it," but that these white men are alive and well because they did not brandish their weapons at local authoritarians who might only need that spark to attack, and of course who sometimes attack with no provocation at all.

ALSO, importantly because they were a group -- which would cause higher-ups to take charge, and not an easy single victim. I'm sure you've noticed that the vast majority of police murders are of individuals. Bad cops apparently see lone individuals as more attractive potential victims than they do armed groups.

Sure danger from our own authorities is a lot worse for Blacks and other minorities, especially after the election of Obama in 2008. BUT, if police-on-citizen crimes were only about skin color and structural racism, many, many thousands of innocent whites would not have been murdered, severely injured, and/or railroaded into prison in just the same way. White people in hundreds of communities across the nation would not also be preyed on by their own local governments and end up thousands of dollars in debt after being written up for bogus and real but minor traffic and civil violations.

I'm really glad Black Lives Matter and other groups are having such great success by focusing on the persecution of 13% of our population. I'd be glad even if it only helped 13% of the hardest hit of all of us, but this isn't actually just a black problem. It's not just a Hispanic problem either. Or just an LGBT problem. Or just a poor-people problem.

Maybe this'll be an eye-opener: Conservative cops really don't like poor people -- of any color. As one severely shocked and outraged elderly woman exclaimed repeatedly to me here in the South, "They treated me like a ni**r!" I didn't doubt it for a moment; she was a stereotypical thin, worn, poor Southern white, with the signs of a hard life all over her.

Notably, there are a LOT of poor white people in this country -- who also cross bad cops just by existing -- more than the entire Black population. For these people, calling the police for help is also potentially more dangerous than not, the same as for minority Americans. I was poor and often homeless as a child. I know. I was physically abused twice by cops who were supposed to protect small children, not hurt them. Think maybe it wasn't my skin color so much as the rest of my appearance? Oh: blonde, blue eyes, white -- but a disgrace to the natural order.

Fortunately, what's being done now is going to help all of us. As for Oregon inequity, I'd like to see all local police departments and prosecutors be required to work to the same standards as the Federal Marshals. They're not perfect either, it's not an unreachable standard.

Also that crime levels in all communities in a state not be allowed to deviate by more than a certain percentage. We would have to allocate more tax dollars to attain that, though, with the heaviest costs up front before coming down tremendously.