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EdwardBernays

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7. And your alternative plan?

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:06 AM

Jan 2016

What is it?

Because apathy is certainly not accomplishing anything?

Saying that I moved away to Europe, and probably won't ever come back. And would discourage my kids strongly from moving there.

I just feel that Americans are scared and apathetic. They feel powerless. And that's part of what people in power want you to feel: powerless.

So maybe if war was something that affected everyone people would fight their fears and demand real change.

Love to hear alternative ideas though.

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If Americans cared about the troops they would EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #1

A return of the draft, IMO, will just give the MIC more bodies to fling at things. djean111 Jan 2016 #3

No EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #5

Washington has not listened to the "vast majority of people" for many years. djean111 Jan 2016 #6

And your alternative plan? EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #7

My alternative plan is in place - no draft, and voting for politicans who are against pointless djean111 Jan 2016 #10

I think EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #16

Removing your family from danger - great idea, not available to everyone - and then advocating for djean111 Jan 2016 #19

Sorry but chill out EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #26

Japanese Americans were interned by folks who claimed to "care about America". stone space Jan 2016 #46

???? EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #48

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you've utterly missed the point EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #79

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Why are you lying about me? stone space Jan 2016 #84

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Thank you! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #136

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this conversation... EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #99

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sigh stone space Jan 2016 #108

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I agree. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #125

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How exactly EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #33

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Funny how you sound so much like my former CO. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #25

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Huge +1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #137

And you seem to want to keep shoving it under the rug. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #34

No more than I want to keep shoving "Watergate" under the rug. MADem Jan 2016 #36

Consider how one of our candidate would love to have us in another war I think it's worth repeating. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #41

Really? This arcane, down-the-line result of the Bush regime MADem Jan 2016 #47

Whatever you say. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #51

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