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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
34. The Boston bombing
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jan 2016

was motivated, if the FBI is to be believed, by Islamic extremism. Can you think of anything the U.S. is doing that might have upset these people over the last decade or so?

Yes, they were living here, but that is no guarantee against terrorism, see Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph.

Now those two examples would seem to point to people our foreign/domestic policy isn't hurting, but actually, that is not true. McVeigh was a veteran of our first war in Iraq, and Rudolph was kicked out of the Army for weed. Thus our failed policy of foreign intervention and our failed policy of drug interdiction, along with our failed policy on veterans mental health care and employment, and our failed policy on investigating domestic terrorists (anti-abortion religious fanatics are given a pass and rarely called terrorists) was influential in what these men did.

And, of course, you are right. Some people are just insane. But then that would fall into the category of our failed policy for dealing with the mentally ill.

So, if you want to stop 99.99% of terrorism:

1) Stop killing other people

2) Stop meddling in other people's affairs

3) Take care of sick people

4) Take care of the people you train to kill people (soldiers and police)

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #1
I agree...but there has never been a hijacker even remotely that old, of either gender. MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #3
I think the "thought" is that someone could use her to carry a small bomb. Being 90, she may not rea Jim Beard Jan 2016 #20
I'd love to to think you're right, but I think that would be an easy excuse for the TSA. MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #21
Not sure actually, if someone is 70 or 80 they may just think, eh, had a good life, out with a bang! snooper2 Jan 2016 #2
:) Actually, according to TSA screening guidelines, they're screened exactly the same... MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #4
One of these days Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #5
That's an interesting point about the line, I'd never thought of that. MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #7
The Boston bombing Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #34
wishful thinking Takket Jan 2016 #17
Where did I say Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #31
I am interested in the naked part of your comment. madinmaryland Jan 2016 #39
Thank you for my new sigline. Dr. Strange Jan 2016 #40
Well why not? madinmaryland Jan 2016 #42
You are now free to nude about the country! Dr. Strange Jan 2016 #44
We started a new group on DU... madinmaryland Jan 2016 #45
I know a man who, six months after his wife of 50 years died, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #6
Pat away! madamesilverspurs Jan 2016 #8
Fuck No FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #9
Definitely more sensitivity is needed towards everyone Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #33
How about some semblance of intelligence FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #37
I oppose profiling philosslayer Jan 2016 #10
Devil's advocate: your dearest loved one is a high frequency traveler going back and forth... MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #16
Since when is profiling acceptable? philosslayer Jan 2016 #18
Very interested in opinions on this, but I suspect many DUers are uncomfortable with the topic... MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #11
As a frequent flyer, PROFILE. FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #12
Watch 'Adam Ruins Everything' the one about Safety. It's all an illusion. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #13
Never heard of it but will check it out, thanks. nt MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #15
No LittleBlue Jan 2016 #14
^^^This Takket Jan 2016 #19
when the patting down started the right was saying to pat down only people who looked like middle- saturnsring Jan 2016 #22
Few pointers from a frequent flyer on Jet Blue HockeyMom Jan 2016 #23
Time saver gone wrong Jim Beard Jan 2016 #24
what if terrorists plant something on her JI7 Jan 2016 #25
Plant bombs on old people then jberryhill Jan 2016 #26
Theory vs. Reality The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #27
How old is Robert Dear? jberryhill Jan 2016 #28
Robert Dear is 57. SheilaT Jan 2016 #32
I agree about rail transportation Jim Beard Jan 2016 #36
A fair question HassleCat Jan 2016 #29
Very well written! Thanks for your thoughts. nt MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #30
If the purpose of random pat-downs really were to make smuggling more difficult... malthaussen Jan 2016 #35
If you pat one person, you should pat them all bigwillq Jan 2016 #38
I'm totally in favor of profiling. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #41
I don't know about "to be fair" as much as "because they might be smuggling stuff" Recursion Jan 2016 #43
It's 'Security Theatre' plain and simple. GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #46
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