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Reply to stone space (Reply #156)

Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:23 PM

Jan 2016

in that hypothetical situation that never happened I agree with you.

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Gun-Toting Subway Customer Gets Into Open-Carry Dispute With Police (CT) [View all] davidpdx Jan 2016 OP

Whenever I see someone with a gun in a situation like that... onehandle Jan 2016 #1

Why was the gun TeddyR Jan 2016 #13

Hand guns have one purpose: killing human beings TransitJohn Jan 2016 #27

Their legal even in Connecticut yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #107

I didn't really say anything about legality? TransitJohn Jan 2016 #124

Ok sorry. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #167

Well TeddyR Jan 2016 #111

Open carry is an behavioral aberration, unless you are heading into a gun range or the woods, etc. onehandle Jan 2016 #56

that is the problem Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #64

Why is that a problem? We're talking about a resturaunt, for God's sake! (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #84

so you would be fine if he Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #87

No, I would not. Where did you ever get such a stupid idea? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #90

because this is what I was responding to Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #102

You aren't making any sense here. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #108

yes I am Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #126

Imagine the distress of the workers SoCalDem Jan 2016 #172

Seems like he was in the process Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #180

Can never be too sure sarisataka Jan 2016 #15

Good to know there are 'responsible citizens' out there concerned over the safety of others. Rex Jan 2016 #136

This incident shows that open carry is often (usually?) a form of protest, not security. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #2

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #5

+1 katsy Jan 2016 #29

Agree. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #33

+1 BuddhaGirl Jan 2016 #93

A form of protest, and an example of gross public intimidation. Paladin Jan 2016 #95

It's exhibitionism. Nothing more. Nothing less. Iggo Jan 2016 #173

firearms owners should follow the law Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #3

Just like any other license you have to able to produce it underpants Jan 2016 #7

Ct law says you can open carry if you have a permit and there is no breach wordpix Jan 2016 #44

of course this is a properly holstered pistol Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #51

Whatever, pistol, rifle, military assault weapon...personally, i don't want them near me wordpix Jan 2016 #71

shows your true colors Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #76

I did say "personally "and i don't appreciate being bullied wordpix Jan 2016 #81

ok, my apologies Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #83

It was probably because his open carry was a form of political protest, branford Jan 2016 #80

quite possible Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #85

He did follow the law... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #16

it sounds like he Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #17

True, even the cop should not have gotten into it treestar Jan 2016 #22

Uh, i got stopped in CT bc the cop put my tag no. in wordpix Jan 2016 #48

no registration stickers? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #53

It was 6,mos out of date and i was back in CT all that time wordpix Jan 2016 #75

in your other post Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #82

Yes one is responsible for it treestar Jan 2016 #94

wel we all make mistakes Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #99

I was out of state, no notice. I came back to state, no notice wordpix Jan 2016 #98

which one of your posts is correct? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #104

How about f you and stop the bullying. Does that answer your q, counslor? wordpix Jan 2016 #110

NY is so much easier Reter Jan 2016 #158

Same here in OK Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #168

Doesn't that show on the plate? treestar Jan 2016 #92

He randomly put my plate no. in his device wordpix Jan 2016 #105

appears not, stupid if you ask me Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #115

Connecticut did away with the license plate stickers. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #164

Texas had both Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #170

Other states are moving to simlar systems. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #171

yep sad in my opinion Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #181

Oh i see treestar Jan 2016 #174

I'm sure less people get caught NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #182

My guess Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #183

When I'm in a situation with police where I feel I'm being mistreated or having my rights... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #23

It's one thing to get snippy with cops. stone space Jan 2016 #88

The crime is not having a permit. B Calm Jan 2016 #19

Such a scenario would be circular logic and by any legal definition - unreasonable. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #30

so you are saying Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #40

No, I'm talking someone not being a responsible gun owner. If someone drove his car inside the B Calm Jan 2016 #46

from what the story said Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #50

Breach of peace is the important phrase in the law wordpix Jan 2016 #57

yep badly written Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #63

Breach of Peace has a pretty clear defintion. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #72

In these days and times of mass public massacres, every week wordpix Jan 2016 #96

Exactly! A RESPONSIBLE Gun owner would have understand that and showed his permit! B Calm Jan 2016 #97

That doesn't matter one bit under the law. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #100

If I see a person with a weapon in a fast food joint randr Jan 2016 #35

The wording does not include anything about suspecting that a crime is "about to be" committed. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #37

Why not? Since they love to beat us over the head about this being a free country. Rex Jan 2016 #133

Confused law, for sure. Cannot oc if there's breach of peace wordpix Jan 2016 #38

It appears from reading the story he was following the law but not the cops. If they ask for the Waldorf Jan 2016 #103

The article said police can only ask for it if there's suspicion the person is committing a crime Reter Jan 2016 #154

Seems so Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #155

Reads like the cops need proper training. ileus Jan 2016 #4

And is well aware of what they're doing to the businesses they visit... daleanime Jan 2016 #6

And probably know exactly what to say to police if they pull a Zimmerman and shoot Hoyt Jan 2016 #8

Stop being an asshole and just show the cop your permit. He was being a gun nut at that point. nt Logical Jan 2016 #9

If the cop had no right to ask for the permit SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #10

Just don't be an asshole is one reason. It would take 5 seconds. No drama. nt Logical Jan 2016 #26

Yes, it's assholish not to show it SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #28

Maybe he was being asked daily Reter Jan 2016 #161

Cops have the right to ask and oc asshats need to show the permit. Twisting what the law clearly sta wordpix Jan 2016 #32

Where do police have a "Right" to ask? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #52

Oc requires a permit and police have the right to ask for it. wordpix Jan 2016 #59

They can only ask if they have a reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #62

Only when a reasonable suspicion of a crime is present NickB79 Jan 2016 #65

not if he was doing nothing wrong Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #67

Per the article, the cops did NOT have a right to ask NickB79 Jan 2016 #60

If I'm a business owner and ask someone to leave wordpix Jan 2016 #66

did you even read it Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #68

Did the Subway owner call the police? NickB79 Jan 2016 #79

Reasonable suspicion is easy to justify... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #73

And knows they can wave their dick in public and intimidate others ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #159

the daily heartwarming responsible ammosexual story.... KG Jan 2016 #11

"ammosexual" Stinky The Clown Jan 2016 #14

that us all some have Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #20

So better training for the cops? TeddyR Jan 2016 #12

I would have just shown my permit as well SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #18

It depends how the law is written sarisataka Jan 2016 #21

Next time I'm asked by a game warden for my fishing license, I'll tell him I don't B Calm Jan 2016 #24

Normally the law states that you have to show your fishing license on request to a game warden. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #36

and a responsible gun owner would have shown his permit. B Calm Jan 2016 #39

Police had no right to ask. They had no reasonable suspicion except racism. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #42

With the mass shootings today, you really think customers are not suspicious of some nut B Calm Jan 2016 #47

Police are held to the standard of "reasonable suspicion". NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #49

I strongly suggest sarisataka Jan 2016 #179

good advice Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #184

I see an open carry i call the cops. I dont know their intent. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #25

CT, where the Sandy Hook massacre occurred, can't get its f-ing act together wordpix Jan 2016 #31

That's because Connecticut still has a lot of rural areas. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #54

True but those rurl reas are now mostly suburbanized except in the parks and state forests. wordpix Jan 2016 #69

WTF is wrong with Connecticut allowing open carry? Of course, the cops valerief Jan 2016 #34

When people open carry in a place like Connecticut it's usually to challenge police overreach. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #41

That's a real possibility. Of course, you don't have to be white to be an ammosexual either. nt valerief Jan 2016 #55

Agree. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #61

But if you're black, you can get yourself killed pretty quickly doing that. valerief Jan 2016 #70

Step one is to act. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #78

same as the other 40+ Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #43

So you have to show your permit for carrying a fishing pole, but not a gun? tabasco Jan 2016 #45

I had no idea ordering a meat sandwich was so frightening. Vinca Jan 2016 #58

Gimme my guns! I even take a bath with my guns! Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #74

Bathtime can be dangerous. You can't be too prepared. stone space Jan 2016 #162

If I see some Open Carry Ammosxexual in a resturaunt, I'm running for my life! stone space Jan 2016 #77

Call 911 and report him for what? Shrek Jan 2016 #89

Carrying a gun in a resturaunt. It's called Domestic Terrorism. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #91

Can you cite the actual law? nt hack89 Jan 2016 #101

lets see the law that covers this Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #106

Look, I'm not going to expose my family to some Ammosexual's Matallic Dildo. stone space Jan 2016 #112

yep, that is all you have Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #127

Are you accusing me of not doing my job? stone space Jan 2016 #128

Do please use that term to the 911 dispatcher. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #114

Why should we expose our families to terrorists? stone space Jan 2016 #116

It's sure obvious you don't teach philosophy. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #118

What is this personal remark all about? I don't understand. stone space Jan 2016 #120

you did to me the other day Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #130

Are you attempting to hijack this thread to justify personal insults here? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #131

I am trying to point out that Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #139

Your stalking from thread to thread does not justify the unprovoked personal insults here. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #142

It's editorial. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #132

Why are you injecting my personal real world employment into this thread? stone space Jan 2016 #135

you bring it up all the time Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #141

What does my personal real world employment have to do with this thread. stone space Jan 2016 #143

"stalker" Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #145

See above; repeat as needed. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #152

yep, over the laughter when they Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #129

Your irrational TeddyR Jan 2016 #122

There is no need for personal insults here. stone space Jan 2016 #125

you do to us all the time Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #134

Please stop stalking me. Your stalking somebody from thread to thread... stone space Jan 2016 #138

If you look at the time stamps, You followed me here and Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #144

Nobody followed you anywhere. stone space Jan 2016 #146

your first post in this thread Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #149

This is the post that you linked to. stone space Jan 2016 #150

reading the content subthead is Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #153

Where have I insulted you over your real world employment? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #157

You have not as I do not inject my employment Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #160

Neither did I. A stalker injected my real world employment into this thread, not me. stone space Jan 2016 #163

you have on many occasions Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #165

We are talking about this thread. Stalking is no exccuse. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #169

so why do you start new posts attacking me in GD Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #176

Why are you changing the subject? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #177

That is what I figured Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #185

Nothing wrong with being a 'responsible citizen' worried about the safety of others. Rex Jan 2016 #137

Some Black Lives Matter protesters have started open-carrying in protest of police brutality NickB79 Jan 2016 #86

Was the person here African American? The one holding the phone, the one open carrying? Jackie Wilson Said Jan 2016 #109

Kudos to the police PumpkinAle Jan 2016 #113

Kudos to the police PumpkinAle Jan 2016 #117

Conundrum LynnTTT Jan 2016 #119

That sounds pretty damn irresponsible to me. stone space Jan 2016 #123

why, he did the responsible thing Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #147

Reading is fundamental. stone space Jan 2016 #148

yes it is Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #151

My post was a response to the passage I quoted, not passages that you quote after the fact. stone space Jan 2016 #156

OK Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #166

As I commute on the train, Fairgo Jan 2016 #121

If someone walks into my business establishment holding a gun, I will call the police. To hell with AlinPA Jan 2016 #140

Question, if several of the businesses in the area were filing complaints, do they have the right... Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #175

My guess would be they can Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #178

Sorry, we're locking this. Chemisse Jan 2016 #186