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In reply to the discussion: Two German transgender women 'are STONED in the street' by a gang of three North African teenagers [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)17. I have seen no one excuse this criminal behavior. I have seen many defend innocent refugees.
Among the indirect victims of Cologne are the many migrants who would not dream of assaulting anyone, and who came to Germany seeking safety for themselves and their families. Four refugees have drafted an open letter to Mrs Merkel in which they express their support of womens rights and their shock at the assaults. They are handing the letter round to collect signatures. Many refugees and German Muslims fear being tarred with the same brush as the offenders."
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21688418-ultimate-victim-sexual-assaults-migrants-could-be-angela-merkels-liberal-refugee
As liberals we should admit when bad things occur and punish criminals without stereotyping and punishing entire groups of people, most of whom have done nothing wrong. Collective punishment is not our thing. It's more of a right wing thing.
The vulnerable should be protected - women, poor, minorities, refugees, immigrants, etc.
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Two German transgender women 'are STONED in the street' by a gang of three North African teenagers [View all]
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
OP
Not much difference between Sharia Law and the religious right here in the good ol' USA
world wide wally
Jan 2016
#1
No, we pass laws to arrest and jail people for moral crimes. Totally different.
cheapdate
Jan 2016
#3
I have no doubt that you are correct. But neither have I heard of any so-called leaders
jonno99
Jan 2016
#28
Would it really matter to you if you were stoned to death or just "humanely" beaten to death?
world wide wally
Jan 2016
#22
Many christians have advocated killing all gay people or trans people. Many more have advocated
MillennialDem
Jan 2016
#35
Well before I go down this rabbit hole, how many would it take for you to be
MillennialDem
Jan 2016
#49
Sentiments are the same, the degree of violence or of acting on those sentiments is different
LanternWaste
Jan 2016
#114
"the agenda of a large part of the religious right would...entertain religious law in the US" If
jonno99
Jan 2016
#120
And yet the one does not mitigate the other. When these murders are reported in the US, no one
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2016
#11
Well one huge fucking difference is the religious a set of laws currently being used anywhere
CBGLuthier
Jan 2016
#76
The Daily Mail (FOX News - UK), quoting a report from RW rag - Breitbart - does a great job
pampango
Jan 2016
#5
The anti-immigrant right wing all over Europe (and the US for that matter) is loving this.
pampango
Jan 2016
#23
Maybe you should then ask males why they rape and do these horrible things.
LanternWaste
Jan 2016
#115
If they were a group of Klan members, then DU would be happy to condemn them all.
FLPanhandle
Jan 2016
#15
I have seen no one excuse this criminal behavior. I have seen many defend innocent refugees.
pampango
Jan 2016
#17
Most, not all, of these criminals have been recent arrivals but there are hundreds of thousands
pampango
Jan 2016
#29
There is one poster in particular in the migrant threads making lot of excuses.
Ace Rothstein
Jan 2016
#32
These statements of defence of innocent refugees are applied to men who are not refugees.
sibelian
Jan 2016
#89
There's a lot more outrage here when a baker refuses to make a cake for a gay wedding
Nye Bevan
Jan 2016
#74
the only semi-defense I see of rape comes from MRAs who rationalize it as something else..
LanternWaste
Jan 2016
#116
while i can believe this happened can you use other sources. daily mail is quoting breitbart
JI7
Jan 2016
#58
The DM and Breitbart also blow welfare fraud incidents to justify auterity
betterdemsonly
Jan 2016
#63
Bull. Trump used a particular incident of a mexican man raping a white women to
betterdemsonly
Jan 2016
#68
She says the same thing I have been saying. You have to be there to realize how true it is.
DFW
Jan 2016
#104
This is clearly America's fault. Also, since Christianity is also backwards,
Oneironaut
Jan 2016
#93
If they exist, I imagine they're careful to keep within the word of the law.
Denzil_DC
Jan 2016
#107
They're new arrivals, who should be respecting the values of the country that took them in
Babel_17
Jan 2016
#102