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anobserver2

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25. Uh, I cpmpletely disagree with you

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #23)

Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:24 AM

Jan 2016

Your assertion seems to be that it is "bizarre" for media to ask WHEN an alleged event happened.

I assert it is the media's JOB to ask WHEN.

So, either: the media did not do its job, and never asked him WHEN.

Or, the media did do its job and asked him WHEN, but - he refused to answer.

I can't speak for all the writers of these articles. You'd have to ask them what happened. Did they ask WHEN? Or not?

Keeping everything vague in the media, as these writers did, certainly keeps everyone quiet in the public, though.
No one in the public can claim they graduated that same month and same year from that same university program --
but hey! Jeb Bush's name is NOT in the program! And he was NOT in the department! And he was NOT at graduation!

That is why WHEN is one of the questions the media is supposed to ask.

It's PRETTY BASIC STUFF and a completely logical question when reporting a college degree -- especially when vetting a candidate.

(GW Bush, BTW, voluntarily released his Yale transcript to the public. But you don't see Jeb Bush releasing any college transcript.)

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Why has Jeb Bush's college graduation year been omitted by the media for at least 30 years now? [View all] anobserver2 Jan 2016 OP

It may be Jeb Bush is actually a college drop-out anobserver2 Jan 2016 #1

Where is the evidence that he ever graduated from Texas? Further investigation is warranted... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #75

Yet, he seems dimmer and more incompetent than Dimson. merrily Jan 2016 #2

By the way this is a short list of media omission anobserver2 Jan 2016 #3

The Bushes just don't quite seem to saltpoint Jan 2016 #4

"...plenty of cool things he could be doing instead of running for president." 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #103

Thumbs up to that. Couldn't come soon saltpoint Jan 2016 #106

This is something I haven't heard before CanonRay Jan 2016 #5

Actually, there is a lot more to this story... anobserver2 Jan 2016 #11

If he starts polling high enough to threaten Trump or Cruz, MH1 Jan 2016 #26

That's trie = no one perceives Jeb Bush as a threat anobserver2 Jan 2016 #34

Shouts of "Let's see the diploma" CanonRay Jan 2016 #29

Oh so what if he did produce a diploma? My point here is still valid. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #35

I suspect he may not have one! CanonRay Jan 2016 #68

Are you saying he didn't graduate? Android3.14 Jan 2016 #6

You're welcome anobserver2 Jan 2016 #10

Definitely needed quotes around that word "proof" Android3.14 Jan 2016 #42

Don't know what you're implying - these are real links to real articles anobserver2 Jan 2016 #52

Don't be obtuse Android3.14 Jan 2016 #69

1973 Fla Dem Jan 2016 #107

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS OFFICIAL GOV BIO OF JEB BUSH! anobserver2 Jan 2016 #108

Jeb's the guy who needs to give us saltpoint Jan 2016 #13

That's correct - he needs to give a date; he hasn't is what it appears to me. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #36

I hate defending Jeb, but this is stupid click bait Android3.14 Jan 2016 #70

No one cares if Jeb went to school at all. No one is interested. Vinca Jan 2016 #7

Why does the media contribute to any candidate's lies? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #8

Don't get me started on the media today. Vinca Jan 2016 #14

Corporate McPravda always give Bushes a pass. Always. Octafish Jan 2016 #9

I agree; the media appears to me to give a "pass" to the Bushes -- anobserver2 Jan 2016 #37

Until it's to late? yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #77

SSDD. Rex Jan 2016 #87

It was in 1974 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #12

You claim "1974" - ? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #15

Need to find someone with an old program exboyfil Jan 2016 #16

Very good - get an old graduation program from: when? Jen 1974 or June 1974? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #17

There's often no commencement ceremony in August, on the street completion of requirements HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #44

Yes, that makes sense - a winter graduation date for you anobserver2 Jan 2016 #54

I don't know about the 70's but it's pretty common for kids to enter with college credit HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #63

Yeah, if the program offers courses in the summer - what if they don't? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #18

Two of my granddaughters got their bachelors in three years NT 1939 Jan 2016 #22

Like I said - in today's world it's different - you can get a bachelor' in one year - anobserver2 Jan 2016 #28

Not from a reputable university NT 1939 Jan 2016 #49

Interesting article here, from the WSJ anobserver2 Jan 2016 #57

I got my BA in May 1976 at Ohio State--3 years (included a summer session) Maeve Jan 2016 #64

And you have to keep this all in context - 1970's etc anobserver2 Jan 2016 #20

The Encyclopedia Britannica says it was in 1974 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #19

Like I said - another thread to come. This thread about the media is more than adequate proof. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #21

Like I said, you have a bizarre idea of how people talk about education muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #23

I know; it's very odd what this OP seems to be trying to prove. cwydro Jan 2016 #24

This is why I don't try to do too much - I know it's hard for some people to handle. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #27

Another poster provided you with dates. cwydro Jan 2016 #30

This poster also believes Jeb's wife is an undocumented immigrant jberryhill Jan 2016 #33

Thanks for your astute comments about all the links I posted. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #39

Uh, I cpmpletely disagree with you anobserver2 Jan 2016 #25

I retired 10 years ago but in the years preceding that I held down several jobs and CTyankee Jan 2016 #31

No, I'm saying that you don't often put such information in an article muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #32

"August 1974" - huh. What if there's no graduation in August at that university? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #40

You're confusing date of conferral with commencement ceremony alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #45

I went back to finish at a school that had an accelerated and got my actual degree in CTyankee Jan 2016 #47

Yup, many people do the same alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #50

Yes I had to wait many months before getting the degree (I actually drove to the school's office CTyankee Jan 2016 #53

completely disagree with you on all your major points anobserver2 Jan 2016 #56

Questions alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #62

Lying in the alumni magazine, just 2 years later, would have been ridiculous muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #58

Re: "Bush's employers put a direct claim in the magazine" - you mean: his dad's friends, don't you? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #91

PS re cited news article excerpted above anobserver2 Jan 2016 #92

You really don't understand how normal people talk, do you? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #93

I didn't read your post and here's why anobserver2 Jan 2016 #94

PS Do you want to explain your incredible reseach skills? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #95

The magazine is on page 2 of Google results for "jeb" "bush" "graduated" "1974" "texas" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #96

I posted links to 9 articles -- and not one reported "1974" as a year of graduation anobserver2 Jan 2016 #97

My husband was graduated from Ohio State in August of 1977 Maeve Jan 2016 #65

I finished a 4 year degree in 30 months NobodyHere Jan 2016 #81

I have repeatedly said on this thread you can now finish a 4-yr degree in 1-yr... anobserver2 Jan 2016 #82

I think journalists writing about a candiate for governor or president should ask WHEN, yes. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #38

If they asked, the answer given would be "1974" Orangepeel Jan 2016 #48

The links I posted show stonewalling, when you can't get a month/year of graduation in 17 years anobserver2 Jan 2016 #60

A big thank you to those who recommended this thread anobserver2 Jan 2016 #41

I don't get it either. Of course, we're not Bushes and he is and they are powerful. CTyankee Jan 2016 #46

Don't feel bad, if you think some here are defending Bush etc.. they are. Rex Jan 2016 #83

Thanks; I appreciate your post. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #84

I hear that. Rex Jan 2016 #85

Here's one that says he graduated in 1973 starroute Jan 2016 #43

There's something wrong with this, because he just doesn't seem PatrickforO Jan 2016 #51

Reads like something from over at F.R. nt COLGATE4 Jan 2016 #55

News articles don't seem to mention the month, or even year, of other candidates Cal Carpenter Jan 2016 #59

Re other candidates anobserver2 Jan 2016 #71

What? Cal Carpenter Jan 2016 #73

because BushLies (�) is a blue chip corporation too big to fail. N/t librechik Jan 2016 #61

This is a potential BOMBSHELL revelation that needs to be addressed in the mainstream media... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #66

I feel the same way for two reasons anobserver2 Jan 2016 #72

A few sources. Igel Jan 2016 #67

It's a simple thing to verify with the school. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #74

Some people migh disagree with you on that anobserver2 Jan 2016 #76

"Jeb Bush passed on Yale"? KamaAina Jan 2016 #78

FYI Boston Globe article disclosing Jeb terrible academic record, confirmed by him anobserver2 Jan 2016 #79

After reading this article I realized: there is no way Jeb Bush entered UT with AP credits anobserver2 Jan 2016 #80

His claim sounds bogus. I bet he washed out and had the Bush PR team cover it up. Rex Jan 2016 #86

I agree with your assessment for many numerous and various reasons anobserver2 Jan 2016 #88

I'm like, "Big effin deal" on the < 3 years remarks. Ilsa Jan 2016 #89

I disagree with you anobserver2 Jan 2016 #90

You make a lot of assumptions about what I think. Ilsa Jan 2016 #105

Having read through this entire thread onenote Jan 2016 #98

What "tactics" - ? And, you're welcome. anobserver2 Jan 2016 #99

This is a hard-hitting expose of possible cronyism and fraudulent misrepresentations... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #100

Maybe he is listed as Attended liberal N proud Jan 2016 #101

And a question for those paying attention: Who is paying the bills for these newlyweds? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #102

Unless George Sr. was angry with Jeb! at the time... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #104

"1973" is the official college graduation year in this current gov Jeb Bush bio on this FL link anobserver2 Jan 2016 #109

This newly discovered evidence, along with your analysis, needs widespread dissemination... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #110

It would be good if the FBI would arrest Jeb Bush for this crime, if I am correct anobserver2 Jan 2016 #111

IMO: There is no way Jeb Bush ever graduated from UT anobserver2 Jan 2016 #112

Post-script to above reply: Is there a flip-side to this? anobserver2 Jan 2016 #113

SO GLAD THIS FRAUD JEB BUSH WILL NOT BE PRESIDENT! anobserver2 Feb 2016 #114

Evidence of collusion between Jeb & Right To Rise? anobserver2 Feb 2016 #115

Jeb Bush's transcript has probably been destroyed anobserver2 Mar 2016 #116