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jeff47

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47. You might wanna read their actual paper.

Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:42 PM

Jun 2012

The article quotes their analysis of their results.

Unfortunately, it doesn't match their results. For example, in the first experiment, the 24-hour HFCS rats gained less weight than sucrose rats. It was only the rats with access to HFCS for a limited time that gained more weight than the sucrose rats.

Yet their analysis claims the result shows HFCS caused weight gain....when the rats with the highest HFCS "exposure" gained the least weight.

In the 2nd experiment, they lacked a sucrose control. So there's no way to determine if the results were due to HFCS, or due to sugar in general.

Not saying HFCS is perfect food. But this particular paper is Andrew Wakefield quality. I hope someone repeats their experiments with proper controls.

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You want to fight obesity, try banning HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) [View all] NightWatcher Jun 2012 OP

Agreed Bettie Jun 2012 #1

Why don't we read the label and don't put HFCS in our mouths? upaloopa Jun 2012 #2

"Big government leftists" ? SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #5

You completely miss what I am saying. Yes the right sees us wanting the government to ban things upaloopa Jun 2012 #16

I did not miss what you said. You repeated the right-wing SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #30

So you want the government to teach personal responsibility? randome Jun 2012 #8

Did I say government teach personal responsibility? upaloopa Jun 2012 #17

I didn't mean to imply that. randome Jun 2012 #22

You do know that we are the government, right? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #13

That is so far from reality is amazes me that I read it he on DU. upaloopa Jun 2012 #21

You read it he on DU? HangOnKids Jun 2012 #24

And not one of them has the authority to make anything happen. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #28

"big government leftists" obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #14

What is so damn funny about personal responsibility? It's something everyone needs in their life. upaloopa Jun 2012 #23

Who Gives A Flying Fuck What The Right Thinks? HangOnKids Jun 2012 #25

You can't reply with a thought? I think that anchor bull shit means just that. upaloopa Jun 2012 #29

FFS who do you think you are kidding? HangOnKids Jun 2012 #36

Kids don't read labels felix_numinous Jun 2012 #18

Today there is an epidemic of obesity. I am obese. I know what to do to fix that. I have upaloopa Jun 2012 #26

Kids don't buy the groceries. jeff47 Jun 2012 #43

True - but how many parents are educated as to what is good nutrition? nadine_mn Jun 2012 #68

Totally agree Komputernut Jun 2012 #27

Sugar and additives are being sold as staples, felix_numinous Jun 2012 #56

And why didn't we just read the label and not paint our houses and furniture with lead paint? Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #37

"We"---???? Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #40

if you dont ban it it ends up in everything then how do you avoid it? leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #42

By buying products without it. jeff47 Jun 2012 #53

yes they do now - hfcs was introduced in the 80's and since then it went into everything leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #61

What is wrong with being a leftist? Please be specific. nt TBF Jun 2012 #55

I have eliminated HFCS from my diet tabbycat31 Jun 2012 #62

Concur jonthebru Jun 2012 #3

A faster way Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #4

I did, a long time ago get the red out Jun 2012 #12

I hate it because it makes things TOO sweet nt MrScorpio Jun 2012 #6

Bingo. A soda with HFCS tastes hifiguy Jun 2012 #10

Exactly, that makes me MORE thirsty get the red out Jun 2012 #15

That's the only soda I buy anymore LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #31

It would go far to eliminate much of the diabetes cases too. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #7

Fine. Also, how HappyMe Jun 2012 #9

No, I won't defend High Fructose Corn Syrup Xyzse Jun 2012 #11

Yes, YES!! Komputernut Jun 2012 #39

HFCS NeverEnuff Jun 2012 #19

Why not just ban carbohydrates? FSogol Jun 2012 #20

not all carbs are created equally paulk Jun 2012 #32

Trying! FSogol Jun 2012 #34

Or just cut off the subsidies LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #33

HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is metabolized like alcohol by the liver RC Jun 2012 #35

HFCS isn't fructose. jeff47 Jun 2012 #48

Did you watch the video above? tabbycat31 Jun 2012 #63

Why would I need to? This is basic biology. jeff47 Jun 2012 #64

Absolutely libodem Jun 2012 #38

Someday, I hope the anti-HFCS folks learn enough to find out jeff47 Jun 2012 #41

Agreed. n/t DLevine Jun 2012 #44

Not only does it work as a sweetening agent... Javaman Jun 2012 #45

So does sugar. jeff47 Jun 2012 #49

HFCS is poison. DeSwiss Jun 2012 #46

You might wanna read their actual paper. jeff47 Jun 2012 #47

yes it is, thank you Scout Jun 2012 #50

Now Drinking: Mountain Dew Throwback with 2 Key Limes Squeezed In AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #51

Uh...there's also the fact that it has less sugar jeff47 Jun 2012 #52

4g of sugar is less than a teaspoon Major Nikon Jun 2012 #58

isn't that what i said? Scout Jun 2012 #60

If You Want to Fight Obesity, STOP BANNING RAVES! Let the People Dance! AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #54

GET THE FACTS BOG PERSON Jun 2012 #57

Sorry, but the claims that HFCS produces different health effects compared to sucrose are debunked Major Nikon Jun 2012 #59

Banning it would do wonders for dental health, too. BlueIris Jun 2012 #65

I don't want to ban it, I just want to keep it out of processed foods librechik Jun 2012 #66

Real sugar isn't healthy either, ban that 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #67

Well, that might be a start. HappyMe Jun 2012 #69