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Bluenorthwest

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39. How did DU respond to Manning's name change? Not very well. In a thread about calling her Chelsea
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jan 2016

one straight DUer responded with this: The convicted felon who handed over state secrets to a foreign national. That was easy..That is what I call the former Private Bradley Manning.Next?"
And
"I will say that comparing the Manning name issue to a bride changing a surname through marriage is ridiculous at best and disingenuous at worst. The two situations are not analogous. A bride is not deciding to change genders when the surname is changed."
And
"The easiest thing to do is to just use the last name: Manning."

And
"When Manning is able to make a statement in public without any possibility of coercion, I will accept whatever label is requested.
Until then, isn't this too much like raw meat for the right, "hey look what the left is giving you, gays in the military and now a transgender traitor"? "

And
"So this Manning person declares one day "I am a woman" OK, so you're a woman. Big deal. Wanna be Chelsea, be Chelsea.
But, if you declared yourself Native American, would everyone have to call you that, too?"

And the succinct
" I don't have a problem calling him Chelsea."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023533801#post3

That's all from one thread in which people also complain about all the other threads about calling her by her own name being so challenging for some.

Why do you ask?



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Huge K&R! hrmjustin Jan 2016 #1
DU Rec. I agree with you. Some disagree. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #2
You are looking in your neighbors back yard. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #3
I don't know what that means, but I take it you agree with me. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #4
Where is this from? JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #6
I assume I am allowed to post links to external sites(someone please correct me if I am wrong)? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #12
Maybe because JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #17
Manny writes "articles" now? OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #47
I don't know if you can or not JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #21
I just want to counter the myth that Sanders supporters are misogynistic to point out her biases. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #23
Well - I can't stand JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #28
I don't even remember her previous name maxsolomon Jan 2016 #5
My name is mine HassleCat Jan 2016 #7
" No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht," but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove"." Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #13
I would have to look at the sketch again HassleCat Jan 2016 #25
They introduce him as Raymond Luxury Yacht, pronouncing the -ch- in Yacht like in "church". Iggo Jan 2016 #36
Is there a widespread phenomenon of calling women something other than their name? 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #8
Historically? Yes. Didn't even know that was up for debate. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #10
I personally have not witnessed that phenomenon in my professional or leisure related encounters. 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #11
Some people took offense that Andrea Mitchell was called Andrea Greenspan. We've done that here for DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #16
I must be really dense, 'cause I don't really see the tie in with Chelsea Manning PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #30
I don't either. I see it as some people being upset and trying to gin up some rage. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #34
Some people still call Chelsea Manning "Bradley Manning" jmowreader Jan 2016 #44
Some context would be great Marrah_G Jan 2016 #14
The context is people called Andrea Mitchell as Mrs Greenspan to point her ties to establishment. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #15
Just up thread you fully agree with me. Not so much now. lol. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #22
I personally agree with the OP. I do not however think it is sexist to call her Mrs. Greenspan. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #26
Wait, what? PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #27
Well, I do think it is crappy to refer to her just as her husband's wife. Marrah_G Jan 2016 #29
Yes. I think people are trying to be clever by referring to her by the name of the establishment JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #31
What Marrah Said! ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #19
What am I missing? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #18
What? uppityperson Jan 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #24
? rock Jan 2016 #32
Wait, is this whole thread about people calling Andrea Mitchell "Andrea Greenspan"? Oh come on... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #33
They're doing it to make sure people know she's the wife of the former Fed chariman. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #35
That is called defining a woman by way of her husband and is very transparent. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #37
Convicted traitor Manning. pintobean Jan 2016 #38
How did DU respond to Manning's name change? Not very well. In a thread about calling her Chelsea Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #39
I'd appreciate your take on this. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #40
I come from the 21st Century so I'm super used to married people with different names and I would Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #42
Thanks very much. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #43
Making use of a person or issue to advance another person or issue is called 'exploitation' of the Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #41
Of course. It is her name. tblue37 Jan 2016 #45
err yeah... of course. She is still a criminal. NT Adrahil Jan 2016 #46
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