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36. I never understood the point of Oscars or the grammys, (awards for art)etc

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:19 PM

Jan 2016

I once asked myself which is the better painting Leonardo Da Vinci's "Mona Lisa"

or Delacroix's "Liberty Leading the People"

I always liked "Liberty Leading the People" much more from the second I saw it.

Is it really a "better" "awarding winning" painting over "Mona Lisa"? Art history and expert opinion suggests no handily. But I don't give a shit what they think. I just always like Delacroix's painting much, much better.

Acting, music, film, etc this is also just art. Trying to give it an award seems so stupid to me. Trying to affix some sort of arbitrary rating or value over another great piece of art seems futile. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Appreciate it for whatever it does for you and move on.

I don't rate the Oscars or Grammys much higher than the National Enquirer. Maybe Reader's Digest mass appeal level of mentality. Pretty silly.

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Oscars 2016: It's time for Hollywood to stop defining great drama as white men battling adversity [View all] kwassa Jan 2016 OP

Didn't "12 Years a Slave" win best picture the year before last? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #1

shhhh geomon666 Jan 2016 #2

This is because of slavery sauce kwassa Jan 2016 #4

That was great. Thank you. Solly Mack Jan 2016 #8

What about Slumdog Millionaire? oberliner Jan 2016 #21

Slumdog is not an American movie. kwassa Jan 2016 #23

But it won Best Picture oberliner Jan 2016 #37

Is its win a statistical standard, thus denying the premise of the OP? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #45

Excellent question. Let's count how many Best Pic winners fit that since 1980: GreatGazoo Jan 2016 #54

Fair point here however JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #3

Nice of you to single out the Jewish mogul when calling out Hollywood for making all those blow-up TeamPooka Jan 2016 #5

I think you completely misunderstood her post. kwassa Jan 2016 #13

I don't give a fuck kwassa JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #19

I think Harvey is the opposite of what she's talking about. He does not make action films often and Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #40

Good point. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #53

I don't know if you are aware of this JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #18

nope you can just take your Hollywood isn't America stuff and go away. nt TeamPooka Jan 2016 #32

Nope - you go away JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #33

Blacks make great movies about the black experience B2G Jan 2016 #41

Concussion wasn't that great oberliner Jan 2016 #6

I didn't like it JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #20

Oscars 2014 oberliner Jan 2016 #7

and no nominations for black actors in the past two years. kwassa Jan 2016 #9

But in 2014 Hollywood defined great drama as Twelve Years a Slave oberliner Jan 2016 #10

Once exception does not disprove the hypothesis n/t Yavin4 Jan 2016 #12

Slumdog Millionaire won Best Picture in 2008 oberliner Jan 2016 #17

Okay, since you want to play Yavin4 Jan 2016 #22

That's a really good point and list! JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #24

There are definitely way more movies about white people than non-white people oberliner Jan 2016 #38

Anecdotal evidence predicated on invalid sampling sizes is LanternWaste Jan 2016 #46

It's not anecdotal oberliner Jan 2016 #51

the only ones not about white men battling adversity are Room and Brooklynn.. kwassa Jan 2016 #57

Did you see Spotlight? oberliner Jan 2016 #60

I would. kwassa Jan 2016 #64

Rachel McAdams played a prominent role oberliner Jan 2016 #65

Do you believe that the best actors all happen to be white people? kwassa Jan 2016 #68

Some years, perhaps oberliner Jan 2016 #69

Slumdog is a British film. kwassa Jan 2016 #39

And the Hollywood Academy Award voters selected it for Best Picture oberliner Jan 2016 #44

and how many years ago was that? kwassa Jan 2016 #56

It was the 2009 Oscars oberliner Jan 2016 #61

What do you think about the diversity of the Academy? kwassa Jan 2016 #15

Not something of particular interest to me oberliner Jan 2016 #16

That is why you miss the point of this entire thread. kwassa Jan 2016 #26

That's one of the things I like about DU oberliner Jan 2016 #35

You don't seem open at all. kwassa Jan 2016 #58

I am trying to make a reasonable argument oberliner Jan 2016 #59

Trade the words Oscar Voters with... lame54 Jan 2016 #11

Boxing Action_Patrol Jan 2016 #14

Straight Outta Compton is simply not Oscar material davidn3600 Jan 2016 #25

Straight Outta Compton is a great movie. Initech Jan 2016 #27

The fact ... MrWendel Jan 2016 #28

I wish I didn't have anything bigger to worry about than the Oscars. NaturalHigh Jan 2016 #29

I wish I didn't care enough to post a response in the thread, too... LanternWaste Jan 2016 #47

You repeat yourself a lot. NaturalHigh Jan 2016 #49

Hollywood where they claim to be liberals , but don't give a damn about diversity Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #30

Also, could they stop definite great drama as boring, pretentious Inside Showbusiness movies? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2016 #31

Yep. There are two kinds of movies: "Oscar flicks" and everything else. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #34

I never understood the point of Oscars or the grammys, (awards for art)etc Jarqui Jan 2016 #36

It's time for the rest of us to stop caring about what amounts to a mutual admiration ScreamingMeemie Jan 2016 #42

Will Smith has been trying to win an Oscar for years now ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #43

and Will Smith is a voting member of the Academy since 2007. GreatGazoo Jan 2016 #50

Pursuit of Happyness was Will Smith's second Best Actor nomination, first was for Ali Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #67

I'm still steamed about The Academy passing him over for "Hitch" Orrex Jan 2016 #66

Seriously. Sick of this passive racist bullshit; not watching AA 'til Jada or Spike say to. ancianita Jan 2016 #48

Interesting discussion about casting Iron Fist on Netflix exboyfil Jan 2016 #52

Captain Marvel should stay as she is Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #62

I think they should make Iron Fist Action_Patrol Jan 2016 #63

One of the problems 1939 Jan 2016 #55