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AngryAmish

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30. I received a substandard liberal arts education in the 80s
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jan 2016

Not to relitigate the canon wars of the period but the wrong side won. We are culturally of the west but have not educated the elite in western history, thought, mores and customs. There is differences in cultures but we cannot articulate a defense of our culture. The Enlightenment, with egalitarian values, dignity and rights of mankind. No more fighting over religion, fought over so bitterly for thirty years ending in the Peace of Westfalia. These are western ideas and they are no longer taught.

I had to educate myself, after my so called liberal arts degree.

One cannot understand other cultures without knowing your own. This base, all cultures are the same groupthink dominates higher education, media and government. Remember the neocons thought invading Iraq would cause an outbreak in democracy and the US would be hailed as liberators? How did that work out? Did anyone look at thei Arab culture, the tribalness, the inbreeding and say, you know, this is not going to end well? No, there is this all cultures are equal monothought that first led to the murder of the canon and necessarily our repeated stupid foreign misadventures, since everyone has the same shitty psuedoeducation nowadays.

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I suspect it is BECAUSE it was accessible and affordable for all in the 60s PatrickforO Jan 2016 #1
That's a big part of it. And the worst thing is, our party's leaders have largely accepted the idea Ken Burch Jan 2016 #5
Yes. tecelote Jan 2016 #7
This^^^ ypsfonos Jan 2016 #32
What's your experience with colleges today? alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #2
I do not believe a college education should be 'free'. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #3
Is there really anything we need to invest in.... daleanime Jan 2016 #27
that would be a pretty different kind of university 6chars Jan 2016 #4
Education should be free Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #6
Education IS free. HughBeaumont Jan 2016 #16
or think that while our high schools are as totally unequal as they currently are dsc Jan 2016 #20
Totally. Dumbest policy making people pay to get educated. nt bemildred Jan 2016 #8
I don't think that free public college is something I am against but it sounds more like a slogan seaglass Jan 2016 #9
Looks like a plan to me: ljm2002 Jan 2016 #11
Who is eligible? Is this the College for All Act - 67% of cost paid by Fed and 33% seaglass Jan 2016 #12
Everyone who qualifies is eligible... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #13
Are you stating a fact or making an assumption? If I want to take college courses for seaglass Jan 2016 #15
Let's see now... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #18
Did you notice that you didn't answer any of my questions? They are all real questions. I would be seaglass Jan 2016 #22
I don't need to answer your questions... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #24
Asking for details = shifting the debate. OK. I'm not really interested in either cut and paste seaglass Jan 2016 #34
I will note that Clinton's plan does not address your issues either... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #35
which means this is an entitlement for middle class and wealthy dsc Jan 2016 #21
Looks to me like it applies to a lot of people... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #23
and Bernie's plan would do next to nothing about your second blue box dsc Jan 2016 #25
His plan would help there also... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #31
The Univ of CA nominally had "free tuition" but in the 60's it was actually about LuckyLib Jan 2016 #46
So folks who don't go to college have stunted souls. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #10
I wasn't attacking people who don't go to college by choice and you know it. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #14
"exposure to real ideas, real discussion, a chance to stretch their minds to the fullest" FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #29
Those degrees do involve effort. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #36
I agree with the goal of free higher education FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #37
I'll have another look at the wording earlier. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #42
I received a substandard liberal arts education in the 80s AngryAmish Jan 2016 #30
I'm all for making public universities and colleges tuition free, BUT cali Jan 2016 #17
I didn't say everyone should be forced to go to college. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #19
I'm more of a technical person madville Jan 2016 #39
I know quite a few very sharp people like you. cali Jan 2016 #41
You can MOOC any Harvard or MIT or UC course for free Recursion Jan 2016 #26
Education has never been more accessible. FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #28
More people are getting Bachelor degrees than ever madville Jan 2016 #40
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #33
I don't think it should be free. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #38
There are side effects to consider madville Jan 2016 #43
A degree carried more weight? Ask the millions of young women who graduated in the LuckyLib Jan 2016 #47
Excellent point madville Jan 2016 #49
The STEM circle jerk and the shaming of the Humanities... Odin2005 Jan 2016 #44
Bullshit FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #45
Speaking from the perspective of a humanities professor... a la izquierda Jan 2016 #48
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