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Ken Burch

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36. Those degrees do involve effort.

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:20 PM

Jan 2016

And they aren't without value.

But it is wrong to push for a university in which all degrees must be strictly practical, and inheremtly conservative(as all STEM degrees will be).

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We should ALL support free college, because a college education should be an EDUCATION. [View all] Ken Burch Jan 2016 OP

I suspect it is BECAUSE it was accessible and affordable for all in the 60s PatrickforO Jan 2016 #1

That's a big part of it. And the worst thing is, our party's leaders have largely accepted the idea Ken Burch Jan 2016 #5

Yes. tecelote Jan 2016 #7

This^^^ ypsfonos Jan 2016 #32

What's your experience with colleges today? alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #2

I do not believe a college education should be 'free'. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #3

Is there really anything we need to invest in.... daleanime Jan 2016 #27

that would be a pretty different kind of university 6chars Jan 2016 #4

Education should be free Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #6

Education IS free. HughBeaumont Jan 2016 #16

or think that while our high schools are as totally unequal as they currently are dsc Jan 2016 #20

Totally. Dumbest policy making people pay to get educated. nt bemildred Jan 2016 #8

I don't think that free public college is something I am against but it sounds more like a slogan seaglass Jan 2016 #9

Looks like a plan to me: ljm2002 Jan 2016 #11

Who is eligible? Is this the College for All Act - 67% of cost paid by Fed and 33% seaglass Jan 2016 #12

Everyone who qualifies is eligible... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #13

Are you stating a fact or making an assumption? If I want to take college courses for seaglass Jan 2016 #15

Let's see now... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #18

Did you notice that you didn't answer any of my questions? They are all real questions. I would be seaglass Jan 2016 #22

I don't need to answer your questions... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #24

Asking for details = shifting the debate. OK. I'm not really interested in either cut and paste seaglass Jan 2016 #34

I will note that Clinton's plan does not address your issues either... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #35

which means this is an entitlement for middle class and wealthy dsc Jan 2016 #21

Looks to me like it applies to a lot of people... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #23

and Bernie's plan would do next to nothing about your second blue box dsc Jan 2016 #25

His plan would help there also... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #31

The Univ of CA nominally had "free tuition" but in the 60's it was actually about LuckyLib Jan 2016 #46

So folks who don't go to college have stunted souls. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #10

I wasn't attacking people who don't go to college by choice and you know it. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #14

"exposure to real ideas, real discussion, a chance to stretch their minds to the fullest" FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #29

Those degrees do involve effort. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #36

I agree with the goal of free higher education FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #37

I'll have another look at the wording earlier. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #42

I received a substandard liberal arts education in the 80s AngryAmish Jan 2016 #30

I'm all for making public universities and colleges tuition free, BUT cali Jan 2016 #17

I didn't say everyone should be forced to go to college. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #19

I'm more of a technical person madville Jan 2016 #39

I know quite a few very sharp people like you. cali Jan 2016 #41

You can MOOC any Harvard or MIT or UC course for free Recursion Jan 2016 #26

Education has never been more accessible. FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #28

More people are getting Bachelor degrees than ever madville Jan 2016 #40

K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #33

I don't think it should be free. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #38

There are side effects to consider madville Jan 2016 #43

A degree carried more weight? Ask the millions of young women who graduated in the LuckyLib Jan 2016 #47

Excellent point madville Jan 2016 #49

The STEM circle jerk and the shaming of the Humanities... Odin2005 Jan 2016 #44

Bullshit FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #45

Speaking from the perspective of a humanities professor... a la izquierda Jan 2016 #48