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99th_Monkey

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45. Actually, "other incidents" are now being planned, incited & actively organized
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jan 2016

precisely because of the FBI's kid-gloves treatment of the Bundy Terrorist Gang.

Please see:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7558026
... Which includes a description of what the Armed Bundy Gang are actually NOW doing, including:

2) using the Malheur sanctuary (a Native American sacred site with
many artifacts at risk) as a National TV platform to spew their arrogant & hateful anti-Federal Gov't
nonsense into our living rooms every night. Just today, I read they have deliberately bulldozed an
area known to contain NA relics.

3) "putting out the word" to like-minded armed lunatics with cell phones and Gov't computers,
to "join them" in their armed insurrection, seizing Federal land at the point of a gun & inciting
other ranchers to refuse to pay their grazing fees and tear up their contracts with the BLM,


NONE of this ^ crap should be allowed to continue, because FBI & LE knows full-well how to
put a stop to it NON-violently, yet they sit on their hands 30 miles away in a base-camp near the
Burns airport doing nothing except 'monitoring' the situation. Here's what they could/should be
doing'
a) cut off all access (in & out) to the Federal facility and lands involved, especially roads, and
surrounding the place with wide perimeter to insure no-one goes in or out..
b) cut off all utilities, jam the cell phones & all computer access, cut off all water, electricity, etc.
c) then, simply wait them out, arrest them as they leave, or use tear gas, as needed to force the issue.

NOT doing these three things is actively enabling this RW white-supremacist land-grabbing of
Federal land & buildings by a bunch of armed thugs, and it's just wrong; and it's pissing off Oregonians
(including myself) big-time. Even OR Gov. Kate Brown has gone public with her chastisement of
the FBI for it's inexplicable inaction, bordering on complicity, while local residents of Burns OR
are being daily harassed and intimidated by armed insurrectionists. It's just bizarre beyond belief.

There's no excuse for this kid-gloves treatment of domestic terrorism. none.

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good question KT2000 Jan 2016 #1
it can't be the bginning because there have been so many similar occupations in the past. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #15
I am aware KT2000 Jan 2016 #49
He probably has the ultimate word, but just delegates his situation managers in the FBI to deal with world wide wally Jan 2016 #2
They are doing infograthering all the time. Probably have an undercover person Jim Beard Jan 2016 #3
^^ exactly ^^ lamp_shade Jan 2016 #9
more than one, is my guess eShirl Jan 2016 #13
Yes! This is what I've been hoping would happen. Lars39 Jan 2016 #17
I'm so tired of hearing of the standoff described this way: either violent action or 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #4
I think to a bigger extent than we perhaps realize law enforcement sympathizes with the militias Fumesucker Jan 2016 #5
No shit. Have you seen this 2006 FBI report, that no one talks about? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #6
OMG newfie11 Jan 2016 #7
Yes, it certainly does. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #33
Yep!!! This, says it all! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #29
Thanks for the links. ronnie624 Jan 2016 #42
Thanks! Very interesting stuff WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2016 #47
As a person who worked with many LEOs, I can attest to the truth of this. It's the job Nay Jan 2016 #30
Serious question... Blanks Jan 2016 #51
Not that I noticed. Unless it was on the order of "Guns for me, but not for thee." Nay Jan 2016 #53
That's what I mean... Blanks Jan 2016 #62
The feds? Seems highly, highly unlikely. Hortensis Jan 2016 #55
I trust that you're not conflating my post w/ 'authoritarianism' or summary execution of Bundy jerks 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #63
Nope. I'm suggesting an identification with Hortensis Jan 2016 #65
I certainly can't argue with that. Thanks for the clarification. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #66
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #43
You have pretty much described it. Sickening. nruthie Jan 2016 #57
I believe your guess is right. There will be no Waco under Obama's watch. lamp_shade Jan 2016 #8
You have a lot of faith rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #10
Agree, plus the Bundys have their children there to act as hostages flamingdem Jan 2016 #34
If Obama is calling the shots, I'm with him. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #11
For sure GummyBearz Jan 2016 #21
He is. Think of the Somali pirates and Bin Laden flamingdem Jan 2016 #35
Also think of Cliven Bundy. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #67
Just found out what some are saying so I guess flamingdem Jan 2016 #69
Why does he not or the FBI not do something? There options. daybranch Jan 2016 #12
Can you cite laws which allow the seizing of accounts of those who have not even been arrested? Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #14
Seizure is done all the time in the name of drug enforcement. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #16
Arrested people with evidence collected and when that is abused good people oppose it and do not Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #19
IRS does it all the time NT 1939 Jan 2016 #28
Shhhh...he or she is on a roll! nt Rex Jan 2016 #40
good idea treestar Jan 2016 #44
Estimated taxes are due on Jan 15 NT 1939 Jan 2016 #50
Look at the War on Drugs. Law enforcement seizes money from people all the time, without charges. backscatter712 Jan 2016 #61
They do it to terrorist groups all the time, but yeah this is not the same thing. Rex Jan 2016 #39
There's asset forfeiture... backscatter712 Jan 2016 #58
Cut off food, for sure. Water's on-site, but if they can cut off power... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #23
cutting utilities handmade34 Jan 2016 #31
There are children there nt flamingdem Jan 2016 #36
Good point. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #54
Whomever it is has a lot more patience than I do FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #18
Loretta Lynch, who is probably listening to regional FBI. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #20
If anybody at all has made a decision (an open question), it was the wrong one. Paladin Jan 2016 #22
Some expert group at Homeland Security is developing the strategy haele Jan 2016 #24
spock or maybe odin? not sure really. nt JanMichael Jan 2016 #25
POTUS. He wants NO DRAMA. WinkyDink Jan 2016 #26
I think he's being proved right as long as other incidents don't start up elsewhere flamingdem Jan 2016 #37
Actually, "other incidents" are now being planned, incited & actively organized 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #45
If there are other incidents the FBI could arrest more flamingdem Jan 2016 #46
You are wish-dreaming IMHO. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #48
IMO it's with President Obama. Also, I bet there is a lot of discussion on how actions might RKP5637 Jan 2016 #27
Good point. Could be an endless talking point if anyone is killed or injured. flamingdem Jan 2016 #38
I bet there are a whole 2naSalit Jan 2016 #32
Only one person with a cool head in DC, the President of the United States! B Calm Jan 2016 #41
I support much of what Obama has done, but on this one, not so much. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #52
Is anyone??? nruthie Jan 2016 #56
So far, it appears that the burglars are. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #59
Nobody? Retrograde Jan 2016 #60
Lynch... TipTok Jan 2016 #64
I found the thread!1 Here: sorta the Department of the Interior, no?!1 Or Mobil Oil?!1 UTUSN Jan 2016 #68
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