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In reply to the discussion: Question , Who do you suppose is making the final decision on dealing Bundy & squatters in Oregon? [View all]99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)48. You are wish-dreaming IMHO.
You do know that the FBI et. al. have completely backed-down from enforcing the law already at the Bundy Ranch
in Nevada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff
The Bundy standoff was an armed confrontation between protesters and law enforcement that developed from a 20-year legal dispute between the United States Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, over unpaid grazing fees on federally owned land in southeastern Nevada.
The ongoing dispute started in 1993, when, in protest against changes to grazing rules, Bundy declined to renew his permit for cattle grazing on BLM-administered lands near Bunkerville, Nevada. According to the BLM, Bundy continued to graze his cattle on public lands without a permit. In 1998, Bundy was prohibited by the United States District Court for the District of Nevada from grazing his cattle on an area of land later called the Bunkerville Allotment. In July 2013, the BLM complaint was supplemented when federal judge Lloyd D. George ordered that Bundy refrain from trespassing on federally administered land in the Gold Butte area of Clark County.
On March 27, 2014, 145,604 acres of federal land in Clark County were temporarily closed for the "capture, impound, and removal of trespass cattle". BLM officials and law enforcement rangers began a roundup of such livestock on April 5, and an arrest was made the next day. On April 12, a group of protesters, some of them armed, advanced on what the BLM described as a "cattle gather." Sheriff Doug Gillespie negotiated with Bundy and newly confirmed BLM director Neil Kornze, who elected to release the cattle and de-escalate the situation. As of the end of 2015, Bundy continued to graze his cattle on Federal land and had not paid the fees.
I mean seriously, how much damning & incriminating information does law enforcement need, before it decides to take any meaningful action to actually enforce the law of the land?
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Question , Who do you suppose is making the final decision on dealing Bundy & squatters in Oregon? [View all]
Stuart G
Jan 2016
OP
it can't be the bginning because there have been so many similar occupations in the past.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2016
#15
He probably has the ultimate word, but just delegates his situation managers in the FBI to deal with
world wide wally
Jan 2016
#2
They are doing infograthering all the time. Probably have an undercover person
Jim Beard
Jan 2016
#3
I'm so tired of hearing of the standoff described this way: either violent action or
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#4
I think to a bigger extent than we perhaps realize law enforcement sympathizes with the militias
Fumesucker
Jan 2016
#5
As a person who worked with many LEOs, I can attest to the truth of this. It's the job
Nay
Jan 2016
#30
I trust that you're not conflating my post w/ 'authoritarianism' or summary execution of Bundy jerks
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#63
Can you cite laws which allow the seizing of accounts of those who have not even been arrested?
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2016
#14
Arrested people with evidence collected and when that is abused good people oppose it and do not
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2016
#19
Look at the War on Drugs. Law enforcement seizes money from people all the time, without charges.
backscatter712
Jan 2016
#61
Cut off food, for sure. Water's on-site, but if they can cut off power...
Lizzie Poppet
Jan 2016
#23
If anybody at all has made a decision (an open question), it was the wrong one.
Paladin
Jan 2016
#22
I think he's being proved right as long as other incidents don't start up elsewhere
flamingdem
Jan 2016
#37
Actually, "other incidents" are now being planned, incited & actively organized
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#45
IMO it's with President Obama. Also, I bet there is a lot of discussion on how actions might
RKP5637
Jan 2016
#27
Good point. Could be an endless talking point if anyone is killed or injured.
flamingdem
Jan 2016
#38