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99th_Monkey

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52. I support much of what Obama has done, but on this one, not so much.

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:09 PM

Jan 2016

Cool Heads don't ignore a seditious, white-supremacist armed insurrection to run rough-shod
over the rights of my fellow citizens in Burns OR to not be harassed and intimidated by armed
thugs, or the rights of Native Americans to not have their sacred land full of artifacts bulldozed
and desecrated, or the rights of Federal employees to not have their security badges illegally
used to invade their privacy, including SS numbers, credit card into, etc.. And this is just a
few of the reasons Oregon's Gov. Kate Brown has openly raised the question as to why this
gang of armed thugs are so 'special' that the FBI is treating them with kid-gloves and allowing
them to break the law with impunity, for nearly a month now.

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Question , Who do you suppose is making the final decision on dealing Bundy & squatters in Oregon? [View all] Stuart G Jan 2016 OP

good question KT2000 Jan 2016 #1

it can't be the bginning because there have been so many similar occupations in the past. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #15

I am aware KT2000 Jan 2016 #49

He probably has the ultimate word, but just delegates his situation managers in the FBI to deal with world wide wally Jan 2016 #2

They are doing infograthering all the time. Probably have an undercover person Jim Beard Jan 2016 #3

^^ exactly ^^ lamp_shade Jan 2016 #9

more than one, is my guess eShirl Jan 2016 #13

Yes! This is what I've been hoping would happen. Lars39 Jan 2016 #17

I'm so tired of hearing of the standoff described this way: either violent action or 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #4

I think to a bigger extent than we perhaps realize law enforcement sympathizes with the militias Fumesucker Jan 2016 #5

No shit. Have you seen this 2006 FBI report, that no one talks about? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #6

OMG newfie11 Jan 2016 #7

Yes, it certainly does. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #33

Yep!!! This, says it all! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #29

Thanks for the links. ronnie624 Jan 2016 #42

Thanks! Very interesting stuff WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2016 #47

As a person who worked with many LEOs, I can attest to the truth of this. It's the job Nay Jan 2016 #30

Serious question... Blanks Jan 2016 #51

Not that I noticed. Unless it was on the order of "Guns for me, but not for thee." Nay Jan 2016 #53

That's what I mean... Blanks Jan 2016 #62

The feds? Seems highly, highly unlikely. Hortensis Jan 2016 #55

I trust that you're not conflating my post w/ 'authoritarianism' or summary execution of Bundy jerks 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #63

Nope. I'm suggesting an identification with Hortensis Jan 2016 #65

I certainly can't argue with that. Thanks for the clarification. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #66

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #43

You have pretty much described it. Sickening. nruthie Jan 2016 #57

I believe your guess is right. There will be no Waco under Obama's watch. lamp_shade Jan 2016 #8

You have a lot of faith rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #10

Agree, plus the Bundys have their children there to act as hostages flamingdem Jan 2016 #34

If Obama is calling the shots, I'm with him. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #11

For sure GummyBearz Jan 2016 #21

He is. Think of the Somali pirates and Bin Laden flamingdem Jan 2016 #35

Also think of Cliven Bundy. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #67

Just found out what some are saying so I guess flamingdem Jan 2016 #69

Why does he not or the FBI not do something? There options. daybranch Jan 2016 #12

Can you cite laws which allow the seizing of accounts of those who have not even been arrested? Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #14

Seizure is done all the time in the name of drug enforcement. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #16

Arrested people with evidence collected and when that is abused good people oppose it and do not Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #19

IRS does it all the time NT 1939 Jan 2016 #28

Shhhh...he or she is on a roll! nt Rex Jan 2016 #40

good idea treestar Jan 2016 #44

Estimated taxes are due on Jan 15 NT 1939 Jan 2016 #50

Look at the War on Drugs. Law enforcement seizes money from people all the time, without charges. backscatter712 Jan 2016 #61

They do it to terrorist groups all the time, but yeah this is not the same thing. Rex Jan 2016 #39

There's asset forfeiture... backscatter712 Jan 2016 #58

Cut off food, for sure. Water's on-site, but if they can cut off power... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #23

cutting utilities handmade34 Jan 2016 #31

There are children there nt flamingdem Jan 2016 #36

Good point. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #54

Whomever it is has a lot more patience than I do FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #18

Loretta Lynch, who is probably listening to regional FBI. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #20

If anybody at all has made a decision (an open question), it was the wrong one. Paladin Jan 2016 #22

Some expert group at Homeland Security is developing the strategy haele Jan 2016 #24

spock or maybe odin? not sure really. nt JanMichael Jan 2016 #25

POTUS. He wants NO DRAMA. WinkyDink Jan 2016 #26

I think he's being proved right as long as other incidents don't start up elsewhere flamingdem Jan 2016 #37

Actually, "other incidents" are now being planned, incited & actively organized 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #45

If there are other incidents the FBI could arrest more flamingdem Jan 2016 #46

You are wish-dreaming IMHO. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #48

IMO it's with President Obama. Also, I bet there is a lot of discussion on how actions might RKP5637 Jan 2016 #27

Good point. Could be an endless talking point if anyone is killed or injured. flamingdem Jan 2016 #38

I bet there are a whole 2naSalit Jan 2016 #32

Only one person with a cool head in DC, the President of the United States! B Calm Jan 2016 #41

I support much of what Obama has done, but on this one, not so much. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #52

Is anyone??? nruthie Jan 2016 #56

So far, it appears that the burglars are. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #59

Nobody? Retrograde Jan 2016 #60

Lynch... TipTok Jan 2016 #64

I found the thread!1 Here: sorta the Department of the Interior, no?!1 Or Mobil Oil?!1 UTUSN Jan 2016 #68