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TeddyR

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Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:11 PM Jan 2016

Are Hillary and Bernie really the best that Democrats can do? [View all]

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The party of FDR and JFK can't find a better candidate? I was talking to my wife tonight about the candidates and we agreed that we'll both probably vote for Bernie in the primary -- and certainly for whomever the Dems nominate in the GE -- but neither is particularly great. We are both lifelong Dems and big Bill Clinton and President Obama supporters. We were excited about President Obama but feel sort of "meh" about Hillary and Bernie. Hillary has a ton of baggage, including (whether her supporters agree or not) the email issue, which legitimately could lead to criminal charges, and even if not shows a serious lack of judgment. And Bernie is good on a lot of issues, but he's also a recent convert to the party, which makes me a bit hesitant, and he reminds me a bit of Dukakis.

The party was united behind Bill Clinton, and Obama excited a lot of people, but I'll vote for Hillary or Bernie simply because they are the nominee, not because either is a great candidate. At the same time, the Republicans will probably end up with Trump or Cruz as their nominee, perhaps two of the least qualified candidates (other than Palin) in a long time. Where are the great leaders who can unite this country and get something done?

Are there any Dems that aren't running that might be better? I'm not sold on Biden, but maybe Warren?

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We are handed a delightful candidate Trajan Jan 2016 #1
Bernie is the most honest candidate for the people put forward in many years. peacebird Jan 2016 #2
THAT'S a fact elias49 Jan 2016 #4
+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #32
If I remember correctly, Warren declined to run, JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #3
Mounting a serious and credible campaign to be the president cheapdate Jan 2016 #5
No, of course not, elleng Jan 2016 #6
I would be extremely surprised if O'Malley hifiguy Jan 2016 #18
The party of FDR and JFK didn't find Bernie. We people did. Autumn Jan 2016 #7
+100000000 CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #13
Indeed. If FDR magically returned to life today hifiguy Jan 2016 #17
What do think of Martin O'Malley? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #8
O'Malley is OK with me. He's young enough to wait 4 or 8 years. I'm glad Cal33 Jan 2016 #9
Not sure what you define as "best", but I can tell you what I define it as. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #10
I would guess I have a longer voting career than you do, pangaia Jan 2016 #28
YES they are. especially HILLARY trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #11
IMO Bernie may be the best candidate for the presidency hifiguy Jan 2016 #12
I'll drink to that hifiguy.... onecent Jan 2016 #15
Eeyup! hifiguy Jan 2016 #16
+1,000,000 eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #20
Better than Bill Clinton or Obama? TeddyR Jan 2016 #34
Bernie is the best candidate we have had in a long time. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #14
Sanders is NOT a recent convert to the party LiberalElite Jan 2016 #19
As an Independent ... CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #25
I doubt that made a difference to the democratic caucus when they saw the vote totals. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #27
Um, well yeah. Actually they are both excellent candidates kydo Jan 2016 #21
Sanders is the best any party can do! ananda Jan 2016 #22
What's bad was the Democrat primary was being heavily regarded as a coronation for Hillary davidn3600 Jan 2016 #23
I agree out of a nation of about 350 million this is the best we can come up with doc03 Jan 2016 #24
Three Democrats are in the race saltpoint Jan 2016 #26
Hillary is the best qualified candidate running, has experience and Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #29
You must be joking Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #30
No they are not the best Andy823 Jan 2016 #31
Locking. Wrong Forum GP6971 Jan 2016 #33
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