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Mon Jan 25, 2016, 03:28 PM Jan 2016

Restaurant manager responds to jerk church who left fake tip [View all]

On Wednesday, we brought you the story of a restaurant employee in Charlotte, North Carolina who got cruelly stiffed by a religious pamphlet disguised as a twenty dollar tip.


The employee’s manager, the perfectly named Penny Craver, issued a righteous response to the proselytizing jerks who left her server the fake tip. After looking up the Harbor Baptist Church, which had printed its name on the pamphlet, Craver fired back with a letter to the church’s pastor Kenneth Simmons. Craver’s response highlighted the exact problems with the fake tips –they’re not money and they’re incredibly pretentious – and put it all in biblical terms that these sanctimonious church trolls can understand.

Pastor Simmons:

I am the general manager of Dish (restaurant) in Plaza Midwood. Imagine one of my server’s surprise when she received a small pamphlet (Every one of us will face eternity one day) instead of a tip when she served what I assume was one of your congregation. H er particular religious beliefs are not discussed at work; however, I do know that this pamphlet can not pay her mortgage or her electric bill. It concerns me that someone would consider a pamphlet fair monetary exchange. Suppose your congregation felt it was sufficient to tithe their personal writings instead of 10% of their income. Your church wouldn’t be paying their bills for very long. I think it would be great if you used this in a sermon. Pride, one of the 7 Deadly Sins, is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins: the source of the others. It is identified as believing that one is essentially better than others, failing to acknowledge the accomplishments of others, and excessive admiration of the personal self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). I think it could be educational for at least one member of your congregation. Thank you very much for your time.


Boom.

Craver says this was the third or fourth time that particular employee had received one of the trollish fake tips and she felt she had to stand up for her.

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http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/277909/penny-craver-slams-fake-tip-harbor-baptist-church/
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Isn't it unlawful to reproduce US currency? lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #1
It's legal as long as it's different enough from a real bill. jeff47 Jan 2016 #2
OK, thanks. lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #6
And it's only printed on one side. jmowreader Jan 2016 #20
To clarify, you mean physically larger or smaller Tab Jan 2016 #40
I think it's legal if it's not a full bill. DetlefK Jan 2016 #5
"Suppose your congregation felt it was sufficient to tithe their personal writings" phantom power Jan 2016 #3
WWJD? Would Jesus stiff the waitstaff? N/t gollygee Jan 2016 #4
The last supper was a dine and dash Fairgo Jan 2016 #10
LOL randys1 Jan 2016 #51
Maybe Judas would TexasProgresive Jan 2016 #18
The waitress was not stiffed oberliner Jan 2016 #21
If she provided adequate service then yes she was. Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #116
Good point oberliner Jan 2016 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author amb123 Jan 2016 #7
Because it isn't enough for you to think these people are cheap? linuxman Jan 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2016 #13
Furthermore... linuxman Jan 2016 #14
This shit from a tax exempt entity. The audacity! Takket Jan 2016 #8
Too many pastors preach politics from the pulpit. Blus4u Jan 2016 #105
I'd like the person who left that for the waitress to get one instead of his/her paycheck sometime. TeamPooka Jan 2016 #9
Pretty low. linuxman Jan 2016 #11
I like to think about the NEXT time one of those idiots ate there... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #15
They probably wouldn't do that, because that's illegal... jmowreader Jan 2016 #25
Yep. Iggo Jan 2016 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #101
You're absolutely right, and that's why you can rest assured that it never ever happens. Iggo Jan 2016 #102
Thats Fucked Up! maveric Jan 2016 #16
screw you in the name of God.... spanone Jan 2016 #17
Another in a long line of excuses to deny tipping. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #19
Please note that the person did leave a real tip along with the pamphlet oberliner Jan 2016 #22
But you know that they were secretly laughing at the thought of the waitress Human101948 Jan 2016 #27
I think two different stories are being conflated here oberliner Jan 2016 #28
Exactly. nt cwydro Jan 2016 #31
The server served more than 1 person at that table. greyl Jan 2016 #44
A tip was left along with the pamphlet oberliner Jan 2016 #45
Wooptie do, and some asshole from that church left that stupid tract. greyl Jan 2016 #46
If you are a true believer, then you think you are doing something good oberliner Jan 2016 #48
That's just one of the colossal problems with Religious thinking, greyl Jan 2016 #50
I hope the manager exercises the right to refuse service as well. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #54
The tip was 8 percent. 80 cents per $10 on the bill. haele Jan 2016 #64
I definitely support the set wage/no tip idea oberliner Jan 2016 #66
The bait and switch is cruel. Combined with a shitty tip- 8% is a shitty tip- its noteworthy. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #77
There was no bait and switch oberliner Jan 2016 #83
Putting a phony printed half $20 to lure her into reading about Jesus isn't a bait and switch? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #85
That was a different story oberliner Jan 2016 #87
Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #126
totally, totally agree - get rid of tips! rurallib Jan 2016 #104
I do 20%, but only because that is American custom CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #124
I don't see anywhere Megahurtz Jan 2016 #72
That's why I added the reply oberliner Jan 2016 #82
8% is a funny definition of "a real tip" Orrex Jan 2016 #80
We are talking about a difference of $3 here oberliner Jan 2016 #84
It's an asshole move whatever the intent Orrex Jan 2016 #88
If they had left a 20 percent tip plus the pamphlet would that also be an "asshole move" ? oberliner Jan 2016 #89
If they disguised the pamphlet as money, then it's an asshole move Orrex Jan 2016 #92
The pamphlet left behind in this case DID NOT look like money. oberliner Jan 2016 #93
Lovely Orrex Jan 2016 #94
Agreed oberliner Jan 2016 #95
What's the big idea, agreeing with me? Orrex Jan 2016 #96
Fighting is definitely more fun! oberliner Jan 2016 #110
I definitely conflated them, but only because I mixed them up. Orrex Jan 2016 #112
Here I disagree with. Leaving a religious tract even with a super tip is assholish. Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #117
If that waitstaff was anything like I was when I waited tables, ladyVet Jan 2016 #107
He should've left more money oberliner Jan 2016 #109
Was there something wrong with the service? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #111
Sounds like he/she just wants to defend rusty fender Jan 2016 #119
Time for a change. silverweb Jan 2016 #23
I thought that wasnt going over well, and places were switching back to tips. Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #79
Not that I've heard. silverweb Jan 2016 #100
What would be an even better response....... WillowTree Jan 2016 #24
That was my first thought as well, Sherman A1 Jan 2016 #29
Also the pamphlet was not disguised as a $20 bill oberliner Jan 2016 #26
Don't throw facts around when DU is getting its collective poutrage panties on. cwydro Jan 2016 #30
Some folks seem to prefer quick outrage to careful information collection oberliner Jan 2016 #32
I hear you there. cwydro Jan 2016 #35
It doesn't change the fact Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #47
You mind taking a look at the other side then imagining how it looks folded? greyl Jan 2016 #43
The other side of that fake bill is posted above oberliner Jan 2016 #58
Rude! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #71
Yes. That makes it all better. LiberalAndProud Jan 2016 #49
The person left a chintzy tip along with a pamphlet oberliner Jan 2016 #91
A cheap tip with no explanation of why other than a religious tract isn't worse? Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #118
Well the pamphlet led to the church getting that note oberliner Jan 2016 #123
How so? druidity33 Jan 2016 #78
The OP is conflating two separate incidents oberliner Jan 2016 #90
Her restaurant is one which I would like to eat in someday. Bravo to her! LonePirate Jan 2016 #34
In "Nickeled and Dimed" Barbara Ehrenreich wrote about waiting tables and the "Visible Christians" Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #36
Every person who has been a waiter I know has said the same thing. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #57
I watched it happen to a server who was 8 MONTHS PREGNANT! AwakeAtLast Jan 2016 #67
This was my experience as well, waiting tables in the 70s and early 80s. yardwork Jan 2016 #98
I waited table in the mid 790s, before I went off to the USAF. ladyVet Jan 2016 #108
These and many other reasons are why I tip well! yardwork Jan 2016 #114
Ex-Head Waitress here Melurkyoulongtime Jan 2016 #103
Cheap bastards Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #37
Going to look them up on the internet. Thanks for the post. oldandhappy Jan 2016 #38
More bible-thumping sleazeballs. The country's full of them. nt valerief Jan 2016 #39
It works. oldandhappy Jan 2016 #41
Kudos for the manager for standing up to these idiots. 47of74 Jan 2016 #42
Wow, I used to work at Dish! MynameisBlarney Jan 2016 #52
. mhatrw Jan 2016 #53
Ugh leaving stuff like that alone romanic Jan 2016 #55
Why do we accept a system that does not pay restaurant workers properly? KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #56
Because Conservatives. Megahurtz Jan 2016 #74
Thank the NRA SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #86
This story makes me want to yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #59
Do the servers in Japan work off of tips , or receive an average wage for serving or a hybrid? Person 2713 Jan 2016 #60
Well first of all I live in San Francisco yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #61
I think most of the US is doing things differently from most other countries by using customer tips Person 2713 Jan 2016 #63
All three West Coast states have done away with the server subminimum. Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #120
Thanks ! Yes fear mongers like how they paint the whole minimum wage issue but hey it benefits Person 2713 Jan 2016 #125
No tips Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #68
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #62
Scumbags. hifiguy Jan 2016 #65
The whole point of the pamphlets JesterCS Jan 2016 #69
I have long ago passed by the doors of religion, but...... Sheepshank Jan 2016 #70
jerk-church church jerk jerks church-adjacent like jerks MisterP Jan 2016 #73
I had to stop communicating with an old friend from University who started attending a Baptist Monk06 Jan 2016 #75
People like that better hope the Rapture is a myth. merrily Jan 2016 #76
Further proof of the war on Christianity Orrex Jan 2016 #81
Good for the manager! Right on target. yardwork Jan 2016 #97
Jerk church. Iggo Jan 2016 #99
That manager deserves a mic drop. Initech Jan 2016 #106
If people can afford to eat out Mendocino Jan 2016 #113
It's quite simple. Iggo Jan 2016 #115
Agreed putting "tracs" as fake tips is total bullshit, but why isn't the manager paying her a living CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #122
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