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189. You don't get out much, do you? (nt)

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Texas eighth-grader suspended for rescuing classmate during asthma attack [View all] Eugene Jan 2016 OP

Typical no tolerance idiocy. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #1

exactly. laundry_queen Jan 2016 #4

Agree with this. Maybe Anthony saltpoint Jan 2016 #9

my guess is that he is just gifted with some common sense TorchTheWitch Jan 2016 #114

Yep. His mother should be in to that saltpoint Jan 2016 #115

it really swooped into my mind the many many times TorchTheWitch Jan 2016 #121

Your being righteously pissed off saltpoint Jan 2016 #128

I second that! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #156

indeed. hifiguy Jan 2016 #45

My class and friends would have yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #198

They should instead arrest the teacher DFW Jan 2016 #2

Exactly! Crap like this teacher should not be tolerated. FFS!!! Get that teacher away RKP5637 Jan 2016 #14

It could have been worse passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #56

Yes, they have those rules now. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #188

Yep 840high Jan 2016 #87

This young man might require some saltpoint Jan 2016 #3

�We ain�t got time to wait for no email from the nurse,� a teacher�s report quotes him as saying Kalidurga Jan 2016 #91

Yep. The teacher's credibility is saltpoint Jan 2016 #93

The write-up was done by a teacher's aide oberliner Jan 2016 #131

Idiot school officials nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #5

How can you make it to 8th grade speaking like that? oberliner Jan 2016 #6

A systemic breakdown in community and public school Egnever Jan 2016 #7

Clearly, the student needed to talk down at a level the teacher could understand. Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #8

The most logical explanation for the grammar used. -none Jan 2016 #13

Ain't no sense in bringing no race into this here discussion. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #16

It might have played a role too... Fumesucker Jan 2016 #26

Well, the kid is Hispanic. LisaL Jan 2016 #30

Here is a picture of him and his mother oberliner Jan 2016 #43

Hero! smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #157

. Maru Kitteh Jan 2016 #137

Which bothers you more? Mariana Jan 2016 #10

They both seem odd oberliner Jan 2016 #42

Generally a student of fifteen will be in ninth grade. If a student 1monster Jan 2016 #72

They must have changed birth date cutoffs Go Vols Jan 2016 #195

I started school at six years old. My cousin, who was 15 days older than me 1monster Jan 2016 #196

I teach college freshmen teenagebambam Jan 2016 #96

that does not make it "ok". great kid though. i hope this helps him get ahead in life. nt JanMichael Jan 2016 #104

If he's Hispanic, he may have been held back due to issues with language. ladyVet Jan 2016 #199

Seems to me that the most important thing to take away from this story kentauros Jan 2016 #12

That is self-evident oberliner Jan 2016 #41

The story is about his compassion being at odds against stupidity. kentauros Jan 2016 #90

As are biased inferences. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #165

Agreed oberliner Jan 2016 #171

Agreed and the actions of this teacher tend to explain why. jwirr Jan 2016 #179

I would point out that this was a teacher's aide and not a teacher oberliner Jan 2016 #181

Thank you. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #102

Well, after having read the actual article justiceischeap Jan 2016 #15

Alternative school can mean a lot of things oberliner Jan 2016 #39

For all you know, the kid speaks English perfectly Mariana Jan 2016 #100

No. I spend a bit of time in an alternative school and while some of 1monster Jan 2016 #77

I totally agree with you. Duval Jan 2016 #85

The mom says in part of the article justiceischeap Jan 2016 #118

Not to mention her medical problem might be why she was jwirr Jan 2016 #184

He was under extreme stress -- watching someone else having a severe asthma attack pnwmom Jan 2016 #17

Fair enough oberliner Jan 2016 #38

The phrase I wold use would be Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #46

I agree. And I would go so far as to use the word, "inhuman." pnwmom Jan 2016 #49

How about she pick up the phone? Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #67

Hah! Thanks! n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #76

That's not fair Kalidurga Jan 2016 #94

The teacher followed district policy yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #73

What is he going to get away with? LisaL Jan 2016 #113

We know that. Just using the storyline yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #135

the teacher put the girl's life in jeapordy azureblue Jan 2016 #84

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #158

People's accents/regional usage tend to be exaggerated when they're distressed. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #18

The full quote was "�f�k that we ain�t got time to wait for no email from the nurse" oberliner Jan 2016 #35

Of course you don't. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #48

I would have said Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #111

Here, let me translate what was said in WASP terms. Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #164

WASP terms? oberliner Jan 2016 #172

A proper canine hailing device. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #177

And we're back to the dogs again oberliner Jan 2016 #180

In fairness, the teacher made it to 16th grade, thinking like that. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #19

Ooof! Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #161

This is what you take away from the story? a la izquierda Jan 2016 #29

Among other things oberliner Jan 2016 #37

Real sad malaise Jan 2016 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Deuce Jan 2016 #44

Yes, how dare people speak in their own dialect! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #50

Their own dialect? oberliner Jan 2016 #54

Normal people are able to code switch between formal standard English and the vernacular. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #61

OK oberliner Jan 2016 #62

Seriously? In a life and death emergency? eShirl Jan 2016 #144

How do you know it was a life and death emergency? oberliner Jan 2016 #147

An asthma attack that makes you fall out of your chair? gollygee Jan 2016 #162

You are making assumptions based on limited information oberliner Jan 2016 #173

In much the same way many people are simply surprised his colloquial speech is the focus LanternWaste Jan 2016 #166

That's a reasonable point oberliner Jan 2016 #168

Please stop being surprised by that, it makes you look slow. Schema Thing Jan 2016 #185

Good point oberliner Jan 2016 #186

He probably has some kind of learning disability LiberalElite Jan 2016 #51

Agreed on all points oberliner Jan 2016 #55

Agreed. LiberalElite Jan 2016 #57

It's called "dialect" and it's used mostly for literary or dramatic effect Proserpina Jan 2016 #74

My point was that the public school system has problems oberliner Jan 2016 #75

Would you seek to improve the public school system or just switch to a private system? Enthusiast Jan 2016 #106

The first option oberliner Jan 2016 #133

A kids classmate nearly died? Crunchy Frog Jan 2016 #107

Where did you read that the student almost died? oberliner Jan 2016 #132

I believe your post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy is another example LanternWaste Jan 2016 #167

I was not trying to make a logical assertion oberliner Jan 2016 #174

you don't know much about American dialects, if you can ask that MadLinguist Jan 2016 #81

Let me ask you a question azureblue Jan 2016 #86

It was just an observation oberliner Jan 2016 #89

I got a character in fiction that uses this kind of dialect, especially when stressed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #88

My nephew in Indiana speaks like that, and he's got his GED. Crunchy Frog Jan 2016 #108

sounds like you ain't never seened Idiocracy Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #110

well, clearly the whole problem here is the kid's grammar TorchTheWitch Jan 2016 #117

Local dialect. Under stress, we fall back on that. mainer Jan 2016 #155

You have no idea. hunter Jan 2016 #160

Informal speech is simply that, informal. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #163

Students are generally discouraged from saying "fuck that" to a teacher (or teacher's aide) oberliner Jan 2016 #175

If only you had been there, you could have corrected his grammar before he helped her CreekDog Jan 2016 #187

Or maybe an English teacher three years prior? oberliner Jan 2016 #192

that's just how we talk in texas PaulaFarrell Jan 2016 #191

You would say "fuck that" to a teacher's aide? oberliner Jan 2016 #193

you would worry about your grammar and language during a health emergency? CreekDog Jan 2016 #194

If he was held back a year, and if his birthday is in the fall or winter. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #201

The teacher sounds like he/she's related to Nurse Ratched. lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #11

Does the school really have rules like that? LisaL Jan 2016 #31

Just imagine ... lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #32

Exactly. LisaL Jan 2016 #40

I was 13 in the eight grade if I remember correctly. cwydro Jan 2016 #20

In most states 8th graders must be 13 by September and turn 14 anytime after that. pnwmom Jan 2016 #22

I was in high school by 15. cwydro Jan 2016 #59

I would criticize the educational system that gave this teacher a teacher's certificate pnwmom Jan 2016 #65

The write up was done by a teacher's aide oberliner Jan 2016 #134

The teacher was in charge of her classroom. It was her responsibility pnwmom Jan 2016 #136

There is no evidence of anyone sending an email to the nurse oberliner Jan 2016 #138

Allegedly? The aide's name is signed on the form. pnwmom Jan 2016 #140

The Daily Mail is a right-wing UK tabloid oberliner Jan 2016 #142

A Houston station also shows a photo of the same handwritten form. Are they trying to dupe us, too? pnwmom Jan 2016 #143

No, I assume it's a real form oberliner Jan 2016 #145

None of these people will be talking, I'm sure. The girl with the asthma attack pnwmom Jan 2016 #146

The article does not indicate that any attempt was made to reach them oberliner Jan 2016 #148

The Superintendent of Schools has already announced there will be no further statement. pnwmom Jan 2016 #149

He then made another statement on Friday oberliner Jan 2016 #150

Staff members could be fired for exercising their free speech "right" pnwmom Jan 2016 #153

It's from his Facebook page oberliner Jan 2016 #152

The Superintendent has muzzled them all in the name of privacy rights for the student. pnwmom Jan 2016 #154

How do you know that? oberliner Jan 2016 #159

You don't get out much, do you? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #189

Not a whole lot, no oberliner Jan 2016 #190

Does posting on DU count as getting out? CreekDog Jan 2016 #197

Well, gosh... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #151

No doubt, the lack of proper, formal King's English during a stressful moment is indeed LanternWaste Jan 2016 #170

I was in high school at 13 and had very good grammar skills Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #183

He could have been held back a year for whatever reason. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #202

And some want to arm teachers... NightWatcher Jan 2016 #21

This kid deserves a medal, not suspension. LisaL Jan 2016 #23

Agreed. pnwmom Jan 2016 #24

Doing the right thing is not always rewarded by the authority. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #25

It's one thing to not reward it. Quite another to get punished for it. LisaL Jan 2016 #34

Very true. I should have said - the right thing is punished by the authority aikoaiko Jan 2016 #66

Anything not mandatory is forbidden Fumesucker Jan 2016 #27

And in this case, 2 girls face a 30 day punishment because one shared her inhaler pnwmom Jan 2016 #28

I'm not sure that one student should provide medication to another Orrex Jan 2016 #169

In loco parentis FAIL. BadgerKid Jan 2016 #33

And you wonder why parents these days home school their kids?? davidn3600 Jan 2016 #36

They just aired "Titanic" again recently. This reminds me of the English demanding order. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #52

This was in Killeen, Tx. HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #98

Why do I picture all of the boys in that school as having crew cuts? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #99

Zero Tolerance = Zero Sense Odin2005 Jan 2016 #53

zdero tolerance and mandatory sentences rurallib Jan 2016 #60

Blind allegiance to authoritarianism Duppers Jan 2016 #58

You don't even want to hear the teacher's version of the events? oberliner Jan 2016 #139

Typical standing on a brick to kick a duck's ass. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2016 #63

If we go by the law and not arbitrary school rules, Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #64

The law usually allows for hearing more than one side of a story oberliner Jan 2016 #141

Bravo to him...Time for a little protest... SoapBox Jan 2016 #68

I hope that MrChuck Jan 2016 #69

I hope that some organization in the town or the state or the country 1monster Jan 2016 #70

how in the fricking Fsck does this not result in a teacher fired?!?!?!?!?!?!? w0nderer Jan 2016 #71

Thou shalt not have independent thought lostnfound Jan 2016 #78

I tend to doubt that teacher was following policy. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #79

If it is the policy, it sure is messed up. LisaL Jan 2016 #125

Now if that teacher was packing a gun......... zwyziec Jan 2016 #80

the teacher should not only be suspended but barred from ever stepping in a classroom again spanone Jan 2016 #82

I sincerely hope that teacher gets fired. Duval Jan 2016 #83

If he'd only shot her, he'd never have been suspended. nt valerief Jan 2016 #92

Some of the replies in this thread... quickesst Jan 2016 #95

Some people just hate kids Mariana Jan 2016 #103

I'll bet the girl he was carrying in his arms... quickesst Jan 2016 #109

Oh, FFS....! Nice job, Teach. Respiratory distress is obviously no emergency. TygrBright Jan 2016 #97

That is a suspension I would gladly take. blackspade Jan 2016 #101

Everybody in schools these days is afraid of being sued.... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #105

Anthony should get a medal. stage left Jan 2016 #112

Sounds to me the teacher could learn something from the student leanforward Jan 2016 #116

KISD responds to student claim of discipline for helping fellow student oberliner Jan 2016 #119

In the actual quote I have seen, Superintendent John Craft doesn't claim student wasn't suspended. LisaL Jan 2016 #120

That's an earlier statement oberliner Jan 2016 #122

Well, where is the actual statement? LisaL Jan 2016 #123

The Washington Post refers to a statement made on Wednesday oberliner Jan 2016 #124

Well, he either can't release the information because of FERPA, or he can. LisaL Jan 2016 #126

Maybe there are some things he can say and some things he can't say oberliner Jan 2016 #127

Well, perhaps it's a game of words. LisaL Jan 2016 #129

Good point oberliner Jan 2016 #130

It's also vague enough to leave the impression that the student wasn't disciplined. Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #178

Yes, that seems quite possible oberliner Jan 2016 #182

My son has Asthma, if I ever found out a teacher sat and watched my child struggle to draw breath onecaliberal Jan 2016 #176

Way back in the dark ages, when I was that age... ladyVet Jan 2016 #200