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Selatius

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22. All unaccountable oligarchs would likely use extreme force at the very beginning of the conflict.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 06:44 AM
Jun 2012

This necessarily would mean you'd see cases of police brutality against unarmed, peaceful protesters regardless if Occupy could marshal a group of 1,000 protesters or 10,000,000 protesters.

One of the ways an oligarch can remain king is to destroy anything and everything that cannot be controlled within his realm of power. Leave no unknown variables in your equation if at all possible. Accepting no dissent or protest would necessarily mean using excessive force as a matter of policy.

Our allies in Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates generated good results by using extreme force against Shia protesters and blanket violations of their rights and drumming up charges against protesters in order to remove them off the streets and into jails and prisons and wherever else they can pen them up.

Our largest trading partner, China, is run by a military dictatorship that has remained in power precisely because it didn't tolerate protests in one city, much less several cities across China. By killing thousands at Tiananmen Square as the climax of a slow escalation between the state and the protesters, the Chinese Communist Party ensured that it would remain in power into the 21st century.

I'm not saying that the corporate oligarchs on Wall Street that buy our politicians are equivalent to our allies in places like Saudi Arabia or the UAE or our trading partners such as China, but if you can cut a big enough check to get people to work for you, you can also cut them checks to beat on people as well.

And before I end this post, I would say that there are very important degrees of repression that they would normally employ. Obviously, they're not resorting to mass executions, torture, and disappearing protest leaders at the very beginning of the protests because that's not necessary to crush an infant movement. Occupy is such a movement.

You move to that only when the usual police brutality, rubber bullets, tear gas, and mass arrests on trumped up charges isn't working. Then you slowly crank up the oppression machine. Cranking up the oppression too fast can cause a backlash of outrage, and the result is you end up like Gaddafi at worst and Bashar Al Assad at the least, a man who is now facing a full-blown civil war against his authority.

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This isn't Europe AJTheMan Jun 2012 #1
Unemployment needs to reach 25% DontTreadOnMe Jun 2012 #2
So, I'll mark you down for... Hotler Jun 2012 #3
Been to the streets already. Last time was May 1. Zalatix Jun 2012 #14
Never having heard of a succesful protest of that sort, I'm doing other things... WriteWrong Jun 2012 #4
The People Doing the Work are in Asia or are Here on H1b and L1 Visas AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #10
The problem is so vast and ingrained that may well be what it would take. nt raouldukelives Jun 2012 #15
sorry, I can't do it. I did it for years. cali Jun 2012 #5
Passing the torch to the younger generation.... femmocrat Jun 2012 #9
Yup me too, been there, done it and not going to do it Raine Jun 2012 #18
LOL TomClash Jun 2012 #6
Judging from the massive police repression to Occupy protests, I would say coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #17
If the heat gets too high they'll simply start killing protesters. Zalatix Jun 2012 #20
After watching the Democratic power structure in this state and city remain coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #24
All unaccountable oligarchs would likely use extreme force at the very beginning of the conflict. Selatius Jun 2012 #22
What has amazed me (and soured me on the Demcoratic Party as a party) is the coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #27
What do you think that will accomplish? dkf Jun 2012 #7
Voting locally Texasgal Jun 2012 #8
I Protested the Vietnam War, I Protested the Iraq War AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #11
Far worse than it is now. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #12
Where do I sign up? Initech Jun 2012 #13
I've been protesting off and on since 1983. My protesting seems to spike during coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #16
When the U3 unemployment index reads 16% unemployment, or roughly approximate. Selatius Jun 2012 #19
It was already bad for millions of us 30 years ago when I was laid off just short of 6 years NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #21
Civil and Obedient Protests in the streets is 100% pointless dinopipie Jun 2012 #23
What does "going after the families of the 1%" consist of, exactly? Could you be more explicit? Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #28
Exposing them and shaming them for dinopipie Jun 2012 #30
Surely that's already being done. Johnny Rico Jun 2012 #31
Agree. ananda Jun 2012 #25
Conditions will dicate as they always do - TBF Jun 2012 #26
When the majority of the comfortable are personally affected. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #29
I think most people are motivated ONLY by direct personal impact. davsand Jun 2012 #32
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