General Discussion

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)

69. I lived in Europe for 4.5 years and it really opened my eyes to the world

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:08 PM

Jan 2016

You can have it all. You can have a country that takes care of it workers, puts an emphasis on the environment, and provides a huge social safety net yet still be a leading economic power. Germany is just that. After China, Germany is the second largest exporter of manufactured goods in the world. If you want to buy something and you want the best, you buy a German product.

Why can't we have that?

Their cities are clean and feel safe wherever you go. Public transportation is amazing and if you live in the right areas, you hardly even need to own a car except for convenience. Their communities are a nice blend of commercial and residential properties and you essentially live within walking distance of where you do your daily shopping, the train station that brings you to work, and the social center of your community.

Sure, you pay more in taxes, but you get so much out of it. As with anything else, you get what you pay for. You pay crap you're going to get crap.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

125 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

I'm OK with paying more taxes for: [View all] w0nderer Jan 2016 OP

Makes perfect sense. I'm on board. Hayduke Bomgarte Jan 2016 #1

common sense isn't half as common as it's supposed to be n/t w0nderer Jan 2016 #3

That's because half the country is Republican. tecelote Jan 2016 #4

maybe w0nderer Jan 2016 #7

Which means 25% were voting Democrats. former9thward Jan 2016 #90

point i was hoping to make was w0nderer Jan 2016 #100

Its not untapped. former9thward Jan 2016 #124

If only conservatives had no sense. Hortensis Jan 2016 #9

Scoot your ass over on that bench there madokie Jan 2016 #2

*scooch* have a seat w0nderer Jan 2016 #5

What is the income line between rich and not rich? clarice Jan 2016 #13

Just a guess here madokie Jan 2016 #20

100%nt clarice Jan 2016 #21

Mittens paid 15% on his income because he doesnt work for a living, his money does. randys1 Jan 2016 #30

In mittens case madokie Jan 2016 #38

There's a question I ponder a lot DFW Jan 2016 #102

Same here! I hate that all our taxes go to WAR PROFITEERS. nt valerief Jan 2016 #6

Infrastructure, social programs, universal healthcare, education REP Jan 2016 #8

hi w0nderer Jan 2016 #11

I don't mind paying (more) taxes bigwillq Jan 2016 #10

Yes... on hopeless Gov programs. IMHO. clarice Jan 2016 #14

Curious...what percentage of your income.... clarice Jan 2016 #12

spoken like the richer senses w0nderer Jan 2016 #17

I paid...$53,000.00 dollars to the Gov last year... clarice Jan 2016 #18

congrats w0nderer Jan 2016 #25

I've always been curious...what exactly is the criteria for being in the 1%? nt clarice Jan 2016 #26

and you could have let your fingers do the walking nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #31

EXCELLENT....you are the queen of Googleography......just what I was looking for. thanks nt clarice Jan 2016 #33

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #34

Guilty. lol. nt clarice Jan 2016 #52

Ignore the whining. First, we dont know what anybody here actually makes, now do we. randys1 Jan 2016 #32

Why don't you put up a poll SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #44

So you wouldnt be willing to give up half of your income to guarantee healthcare for all, education randys1 Jan 2016 #45

No, I would not n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #50

TO insure all have food, housing, jobs, educatoin, healthcare, I would do it in an INSTANT randys1 Jan 2016 #54

No, it's YOUR definition of a liberal SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #56

Right STRAIGHT off of the most RIGHTWING BOARDS in the country. randys1 Jan 2016 #57

Are you saying it's rightwing to live your convictions? SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #62

3rd time now, twice by you and once by the other, one of the most RIGHTWING TALKING randys1 Jan 2016 #63

I don't know any rightwing talking points SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #64

Well personally I would love to see a MORE PROGRESSIVE tax rate nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #65

lol....great post...but I'm afaid that it is falling on deaf ears. nt clarice Jan 2016 #87

ohhhhhhhh....be careful...your adversary is well known for baiting...then alerting. nt clarice Jan 2016 #59

Almost as absurd as pretending one poster is someone else simply to save face and change subjects. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #79

Thanks Randi. nt clarice Jan 2016 #88

No - I wouldn't leftynyc Jan 2016 #112

What the hell does SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #42

You paid more in taxes than most working families earn in income? cleanhippie Jan 2016 #111

actually.... I believe that we are in the 35%-38% bracket... clarice Jan 2016 #119

Italians pay around 40 percent yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #51

35% across the board ? nt clarice Jan 2016 #89

Yes across the board yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #91

35% ...Even for low income wage earners? nt clarice Jan 2016 #92

Yes. My friend was a relatively low wage earner. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #97

Keep in mind what they get. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #98

Wages are not taxes, though can be taxable nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #15

It's not a question of mandate....everyone is able to pay more tax...if they want to.... clarice Jan 2016 #16

you beat it with a "mandate" heh heh restorefreedom Jan 2016 #19

Are you serious...that post was alerted? My oh My. nt clarice Jan 2016 #22

yup. its gettin crazy! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #23

wow ~!! Thanks for the heads up Freedom. Guess I had better start towing the line. nt clarice Jan 2016 #24

lol....that's what the thought police want us to do! restorefreedom Jan 2016 #27

You are my hero/heroine. nt clarice Jan 2016 #28

pishaw....right back atcha! :) nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #29

That post is STRAIGHT out of rightwing land randys1 Jan 2016 #35

which one? nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #36

The one that was alerted on randys1 Jan 2016 #37

i think its fair to point out restorefreedom Jan 2016 #39

No, that wasnt their point at all. And your defending them tells me what I need to know randys1 Jan 2016 #40

please elaborate, if you care to nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #41

He won't SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #43

I just make sure rightwing comments are pointed out... randys1 Jan 2016 #46

Yes, we know SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #48

I couldnt do that, there are way too many rightwingers here...way too many randys1 Jan 2016 #49

Well shoo then and track them down!! SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #53

I just like being around liberals. Too bad so many folks here arent randys1 Jan 2016 #55

Oh, don't be sad SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #58

It does make me sad to have to deal with people who are here for reasons that randys1 Jan 2016 #60

lol. best post of the day. nt clarice Jan 2016 #66

Bias often forces low expectations. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #81

Its not right wing to point it out... beevul Jan 2016 #71

And again...where am I again? randys1 Jan 2016 #73

In the position you put yourself in... beevul Jan 2016 #74

And again, and again, how many times is it now the rightwing talking point has been randys1 Jan 2016 #75

Yes, you are n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #77

Calling it right wing does not make it so. beevul Jan 2016 #78

OMG....you are soooo correct...but be carefull...other poster likes,,,, clarice Jan 2016 #85

I know... beevul Jan 2016 #93

My new friend. *sigh* nt clarice Jan 2016 #94

Don't let it get to you. beevul Jan 2016 #95

well, my office door is always open for discussion. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #61

lol.....I love this thread....be careful though.. some people are very quick on the alert button.. clarice Jan 2016 #67

lol....i will keep my eye out :). nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #68

That's an ironic allegation if we regard from whom it came. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #80

No idea what you're talking about SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #82

Don't try to figure it out.....poster is not worth an alert. nt clarice Jan 2016 #86

What BULLSHIT alert leftynyc Jan 2016 #114

I think most Duers would rather donate money to charities than go that route. ohnoyoudidnt Jan 2016 #96

yup. nt clarice Jan 2016 #99

K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #47

I lived in Europe for 4.5 years and it really opened my eyes to the world Victor_c3 Jan 2016 #69

+ German girls are hot! GOLGO 13 Jan 2016 #76

I live in Germany, but I hate beer DFW Jan 2016 #103

+1 German beer? naah i'll do Danish n/t w0nderer Jan 2016 #108

To me, that's like telling a vegan what cut of steak you prefer n/t DFW Jan 2016 #116

ahhh ...nice picture anyway n/t w0nderer Jan 2016 #117

We, the beer ignorant DFW Jan 2016 #121

Me the beef ignorant w0nderer Jan 2016 #122

Beef has been off my menu for 12 years now DFW Jan 2016 #123

They're not paying for their empires anymore The2ndWheel Jan 2016 #84

China? Slave wages and incredible pollution? redstateblues Jan 2016 #101

how did china get into the conversation? n/t w0nderer Jan 2016 #120

K&R. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #70

I, also. hifiguy Jan 2016 #72

that's why i'm not overpaying my 1040 w0nderer Jan 2016 #109

You graciously blame poor eyesight for getting hit on your bicycle? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #83

I live in an area with a lot of snowbirds w0nderer Jan 2016 #107

I'd have added better education in there. Xyzse Jan 2016 #104

i actually assumed it was automatic...my bad...correction added w0nderer Jan 2016 #105

Oh cool! Xyzse Jan 2016 #106

i took it for granted that when i mentioned college w0nderer Jan 2016 #110

Yeah, it is one of the reasons some kids drop out since they are just not ready. Xyzse Jan 2016 #118

How do you pay more taxes for $15+ Hour and paid sick days for all CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #113

that's what i wish i could w0nderer Jan 2016 #115

The point is SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #125