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hfojvt

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37. How much agreement though
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

does it take to be on the same side?

Some people were getting upset at Obama for things that I did not care about. Some of the same people would have been upset at Bush for the same things, but I would not be one of them.

So, yes, to me, and perhaps to others, SOME conservative policy is acceptable.

And to me, and perhaps to others, SOME liberal policy is NOT acceptable.

Yeah, I know that is heresy. Here are a few examples.

1. It seems that many liberals are perfectly fine with a Big Brother government. Big Brother, of course, is concerned about the safety of his subjects. Big brother is gonna make sure his little brother is buying and wearing a bicycle helmet, a motorcycle helmet, and a seat belt. One of Obama's early "accomplishments" was to extort the state of Kansas (and others) to pass a law allowing the police to pull over a driver for not wearing a seat belt. Before that, the police had to have some other reason to stop a driver. Now they have increased power to harass citizens. That's simply NOT part of the change I was hoping for.

2. On the other side, many liberals are perfectly fine with allowing people to buy soda pop with food stamps. I am on the other side of that.

And so on. So I am not a perfect ally. Even though I have pretty much voted straight ticket Democrat since 1988.

And the shoe seems to be on the other foot too. Some liberals, apparently, are perfectly fine with tax cuts that favor the rich, and also with increasing income inequality. It was celebrated as a great victory when Obama (and the Democratic Party) made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent.

One thing that strikes me about this primary battle is not so much that people are divided, but that many seem to have so much hatred and contempt for those on the other side. Not only do they no see each other as allies, they apparently do not even WANT to be allies.

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Just my opinion... [View all] Highway61 Jan 2016 OP
Agree. eom Maeve Jan 2016 #1
Ditto bigbrother05 Jan 2016 #2
They need to start banning posters who spout they will sit out the election if their B Calm Jan 2016 #3
Gee...that's so American of you. SoapBox Jan 2016 #12
Republican speech is shut off from this site... Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2016 #25
Enjoy your moment now ... LannyDeVaney Jan 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #28
People have been kicked from here for advocating it here. I agree with you. marble falls Jan 2016 #38
Agree. All three of our candidates are light years better than the best of the GOP. FSogol Jan 2016 #4
The simple truth. Hortensis Jan 2016 #9
"People should be able to support their candidate without tearing down other Democratic folks." retrowire Jan 2016 #19
If you can't see the difference between pointing out differences in policy and gleefully pushing FSogol Jan 2016 #23
Oh I certainly know the difference between those. retrowire Jan 2016 #27
Then, I fail to understand your comment to me. FSogol Jan 2016 #29
Oh yes, I do. retrowire Jan 2016 #30
Translation: You like inter-party squabbles. FSogol Jan 2016 #32
because they're necessary. retrowire Jan 2016 #33
Yeah, I was 15 once too. FSogol Jan 2016 #35
how respectful. retrowire Jan 2016 #36
You're right, of course DFW Jan 2016 #5
I stay on the Latest page TexasProgresive Jan 2016 #6
Yup. old guy Jan 2016 #7
I suspect a lot of the vitriol is from Rebkeh Jan 2016 #8
Disruptive Meta/Wrong Forum n/t demmiblue Jan 2016 #10
That's why they have a separate forum annabanana Jan 2016 #11
I'm with you on that. lark Jan 2016 #13
I learned that I wasn't on the same side in January of 2009.. frylock Jan 2016 #14
+1 [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2016 #15
+1. nt OnyxCollie Jan 2016 #17
+1 n/t TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #31
How much agreement though hfojvt Jan 2016 #37
There's a very distinctive timeline.. frylock Jan 2016 #39
"like other conservatives" hfojvt Jan 2016 #40
Want to hear something funny? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #16
Really? oh man. that backfired IMMENSELY it seems lol. nt retrowire Jan 2016 #21
I agree Marrah_G Jan 2016 #18
Opinions differ. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #20
Yes, let's all vote for whoever is nominated. retrowire Jan 2016 #22
Futile isn't acceptable to me Highway61 Jan 2016 #41
Thank you. Nt Mister Ed Jan 2016 #24
Can't blame progressives for not wanting to vote for a center-right candidate. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #34
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