Danish teen fought off her attacker - now she'll face fine

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241. Not once have you provided anything to back up your assertions.

Bullshit

Not once have you provided anything to back up your assertions during your exchange with me. Not a single time.

Free hint: "bullshit" doesn't qualify.

Yeah it's all about the right of an individual to protect themselves.

Any society which does not allow its citizens reasonable tools to protect themselves, is as sick as the thinking that leads to such a society, which is to say disturbingly, disgustingly sick.

The same argument that has millions of guns pouring across the nation year on year. Except you don't want to own that do you...

I own that competely. I support private individual gun ownership. It happens to be a right in this country, not a privilege or a boon granted by authority. As it should be. Your nation (IIRC) and what is now mine had a little disagreement about such philosophical differences a couple hundred years ago. You are, I expect, aware of how that turned out.

..., you want this to be about a single case of a girl who managed to fight off a rapists.

The OP is about a girl who managed to fight off a rapist. You're trying to make this about guns.

Fuck the societal implications of what you're supporting, fuck the evidence of a society that doesn't follow your bullshit and which as a result is far safer and happier.

You've provided no such evidence. You simply assert that it exists, and we should take your word that it exists and indicates what you insinuate it does. That's not how debate works, at least on this side of the pond.

And you know what else? As far as I'm concerned, FUCK any society which does not allow its citizens reasonable tools for self defense. Is that perfectly crystal clear enough for you?

The rape victim in the OP would not have been safer or happier with out the pepper spray, and you know what, you can't refute that. Its not debatable. The best you can do, is continue to post factual devoid substance free irrelevant diatribes claiming that society is more important, as you have. Pretty much everyone in this thread sees it too.

No, you have your point to prove, and you're going to fight it to the end, and anyone who calls you on that must be a rape apologist.

Not quite. Not even close. The point has already been proven. You can ignore that, and pretend to your hearts content that such isn't the case, but your denial can't make the facts disappear.

Also, I have to question your attempt to put your words into my mouth. I never used the words "rape apologist". I simply said that when it comes to the individual vs society, you side with society, even when the individual is a rape victim. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. All it takes is a brief perusal of this thread, which everyone is entirely free to do for themselves, to see it. It sticks out like a sore thumb. That it makes you uncomfortable when people point it out, would make a thinking person re-examine their beliefs. But not you, you're a true believer. If you're hearing the words "rape apologist" where those words aren't used, its possible however unlikely, that your conscience is talking to you, but I expect its just you trying to defend the indefensible.

Finally, you present zero evidence to support your claims assertions and insinuations. You refuse to address anything others say to you. Basically you just keep posting non-sequiturs strawmen and misrepresentations. Maybe that constitutes debate in your circles, but it doesn't on DU.