Danish teen fought off her attacker - now she'll face fine

[beevul]

243. Oh, I completely believe that.

Conscience? Oh my conscience is just fine

Oh, I completely believe that. What you don't seem to understand, is that your clear conscience indicates much about your position, none of it good. Or maybe you're completely aware of how it makes you look, and just don't care. The reader can decide for themselves, but either way, it paints quite an unflattering picture.

As for evidence, I posted multiple links up thread to things like stats showing the Danes having far lower levels of rape than America.

I don't doubt that you did, however, such stats are meaningless to this debate. The rape victim in the Op is not a number, and I'd be very interested in seeing the look on her face if she saw you reducing her to one. Frankly, it doesn't matter if the stats you quote show that theres only 1 rape per year. Denying people reasonable tools of self defense is wrong, and theres simply no legitimate justification for it. The best you can do, amounts to "individuals must take one for the team", which is unethical immoral, and anything BUT liberal. Its indefensible, and everyone in this thread gets it, except you.

But of course they're the ones with the 'disgustingly sick' society.

If they deny their individual citizens effective tools of self defense, yes. Yes they are. If I were made aware of a society where one was not allowed a fire extinguisher, where the old, the infirm, and the physically weak/vulnerable could only rely on the fire department to put out fires for ANY reason, I'd call it sick too and so would everyone else. And We'd all be right, just like we are now.

Less rapes, less murders higher on the indexes for happiness and health, but very few guns so 'fuck their society' right?

Less rapes? SO what This isn't about how many there are, this is about what options potential victims are allowed by 'society', at the point of contact. Less murders? Non-sequitur. This isn't about the degree to which a society has problems. That's not the metric being used here. Higher on the indexes for happiness and health? Non-sequitur. Again, this isn't about the degree to which a society has problems. That's not the metric being used here. But very few guns? You're still trying to make this about guns? Hello? Haven't you been paying attention? This is about PEPPER SPRAY. I find your attempts to make this about guns to be parochial, sophomoric, and pathetic. And I'm only being that charitable to stay within posting rules here. You are incapable of creating that rabbit hole and enticing me into going down it. That you continue to try, smacks of desperation. Grasping at straws. And strawmen.

so 'fuck their society'

Yup. Fuck that society. It may not have occurred to you, but the rape victim in the OP said "fuck this society" the moment she bought pepper spray. It only makes sense, that your ire is as great toward her for saying it through action, as it is toward me for uttering the words. You should think about that for a minute. Really hard. Would you feel the same way if your mother had been the victim?