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lumberjack_jeff

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48. Those are all virtuous traits.

Reply to valerief (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:14 AM

Jun 2012

So long as we liberals insist that they are not, the answer to the OP's question is never.

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When will the lower middle class ( especially white men) realize that the rich play them? [View all] samrock Jun 2012 OP

That will happen flamingdem Jun 2012 #1

I've always said sports are the training ground for soldiers and it's blind soldiering valerief Jun 2012 #6

Me too flamingdem Jun 2012 #13

Interestingly enough (and humorous in a dark-humor sort of way), men coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #20

It's a scam like the army flamingdem Jun 2012 #40

I am strongly anti-pro football byeya Jun 2012 #22

Well I've never been anti-baseball flamingdem Jun 2012 #41

Sports are huge all around the world RZM Jun 2012 #39

The world is full of poor, brainwashed people, too. nt valerief Jun 2012 #62

So if this brainwashing were magically removed, what would people do for entertainment? RZM Jun 2012 #63

The Romans injected a lot into "sports" for the benefit of a crumbling empire Kennah Jun 2012 #71

When we stop using the term middle class? Mass Jun 2012 #2

The working class used to know who they were and who the bosses were... rfranklin Jun 2012 #3

Excellent poor. Working poor is more like it. nt valerief Jun 2012 #7

People say Middle Class when they should say Middle Income. byeya Jun 2012 #23

You just can't convince them that the real problem is income distribution to the top. brewens Jun 2012 #4

Never. NEVER bongbong Jun 2012 #5

Freedom. Boostraps. Independence. Being a man. valerief Jun 2012 #8

Those are all virtuous traits. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #48

How long can the RW convince them unionized 3rd grade teacher is a threat? bigbrother05 Jun 2012 #9

Plenty of dems in leadership positions are pushing that as well. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #54

Some people are stupid enough to be played, and... Speck Tater Jun 2012 #10

People wake up woo me with science Jun 2012 #11

more likely if they can't get their beer Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #18

When they get over their anger, hatred and fear of women and minorities. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #12

Ouch! Iggo Jun 2012 #49

Plus, they use abortion and teh gay as bait and switch meow2u3 Jun 2012 #14

This is what scares me about next week's election in Wisconsin demilib Jun 2012 #15

You are so right. Here are a few (paraphrased) quotes from people I know. LibDemAlways Jun 2012 #16

LMAO (but also crying inside). If you can plant 'Blazing Saddles' on your coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #21

One Aunt Thinks Dems Want To Kill Babies The Other Thinks Dems Want To Have Babies On Her Dime HangOnKids Jun 2012 #24

Husband's BIL treestar Jun 2012 #30

We must be relatives SoutherDem Jun 2012 #33

simple answers to simple questions wwytchwood Jun 2012 #17

The Repigs should only receive 1% of the vote, the Dems 10% and Democratic coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #19

And also, "Never give a sucker an even break" byeya Jun 2012 #25

Back in the 20s and 30s there was a robust Socialist platform for coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #29

That's Why Vote Rigging Has ALWAYS Existed HangOnKids Jun 2012 #26

Never. It's a tradition that began with the American Revolution. Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #27

Okay, this is an odd post. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #60

Plantation owners named Washington, Jefferson, Rutledge, Longstreet, Byrd, etc... Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #61

Then there is the Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2012 #28

Oh, man. HST never grows old. Truth in advertising: I attended high school coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #31

I think there's a saying onlyadream Jun 2012 #32

Maybe they do, or maybe most do realize this. Our Democratic leaders would get more votes if AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #34

+1. It's really tiresome to see the canard "lower-class white men are stupid" being pushed. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #55

+1 leftstreet Jun 2012 #73

Never!? SoutherDem Jun 2012 #35

People generally view politics through a group identity lens. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #36

We're not in England, many Dems are union workers flamingdem Jun 2012 #43

I'm data-driven. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #47

It will start when they realize class nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #37

Same thing with the religious right. They are stooges,fed a few crumbs by those who they support. ladjf Jun 2012 #38

Never nt Fresh_Start Jun 2012 #42

As a group? Never. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2012 #44

Mike Pappantonio called them cannon fodder, a label from the Civil War. Cleita Jun 2012 #45

The problem is they have the heads up their asses. LOL They is where you got to pull them southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #46

When will millions (now billions) of dollars of negative ads cease to have an effect? Stargleamer Jun 2012 #50

this thread may help to explain why that does not happen hfojvt Jun 2012 #51

Agreed it's like Republicans making racial marks about Blacks SpartanDem Jun 2012 #52

+1. When will upper-class dems stop denigrating their own constituencies? HiPointDem Jun 2012 #56

Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #59

Absolutely correct RZM Jun 2012 #66

Well said. jp11 Jun 2012 #70

When will dems stop dealing in stereotypes? HiPointDem Jun 2012 #53

When all the televisions spontaneously melt and the the broadcast infrastructure is swallowed Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #57

About an hour after it is too late to do a damn thing about it short of massive bloodshed. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #58

NAIOP - Not Another Idiotic Original Post! whistler162 Jun 2012 #64

There was a time when it wasn't that way Major Nikon Jun 2012 #65

When we obliterate the propaganda mechanism Doctor_J Jun 2012 #67

When they get over their FEAR. alittlelark Jun 2012 #68

Awesome question. I wonder too! CoffeeCat Jun 2012 #69

In the words of Upton Sinclair 0rganism Jun 2012 #72