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Jarqui

(10,889 posts)
11. That's the Clinton spin but as usual, not the truth
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jan 2016

State Department Transcript of State Department spokesman Kirby yesterday:
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/01/251855.htm

"As to whether they were classified at the time they were sent, the State Department, in the FOIA process, is focusing on whether they need to be classified today. Questions about classification at the time they were sent are being and will be handled separately by the State Department."


The Inspector Generals had a bit of a time with the state department on this. In June-July 2015, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community reported:
https://oig.state.gov/system/files/23_july_2015_cn_summary_of_ic_ig_support_to_state_department_ig.pdf
"State personnel continue to deny the classified character of the released information despite a definitive determination from the IC Interagency FOIA process)"


The old Clinton game of "in the face of the troubling truth, deny, deny, and then deny some more" has operated like a broken record since they came to Washington but lost some it's pizzazz with a stained blue dress.

The State Department is waking up to their errors in handling this material and how they've (intentionally?) been misinforming the American public. This transcript today shows Kirby is starting to catch on and back peddled on what was classified at the time of transmission - as is the accurate case because the state department has already been found by the Inspector General as being in denial after a formal determination has been made.

But here's the thing, aside from the 22 top secret emails (which now some are trying to spin "oh but they just got upgraded to top secret" as if they wouldn't have has any secret or confidential classification before). Yesterday, the State Department declined to release to the FOIA claim 18 emails between the past Secretary of State (Hillary) and with the President of the United States. And she did not inform the president their communications were completely unsecure. Think about that for a moment. No, think about for a second longer.

The lame defense of "well it depends what was said in those emails" is beyond absurd. Ignoring what the president might write to her during a sleepless night at 4am in an email, one example: the transmission of those emails very probably contains some valid IP addresses or transmission information that would help spies trying to tap into the White House to find a data pipe to attack. It's indefensible conduct. No acceptable excuse.

So stop the BS spin. The game is over. Whether anyone got anything or not or whether any information that was sent was classified or not (which I argue that communications with the president and the Secretary of State are automatically classified as confidential), she's guilty of compromising the security of the Office of the President of the United states and the Secretary of State of the United States - for starters - ignoring the other top secret stuff and the 1,300 other classified items found in her emails - which the FBI and others are trying to chase down.

Once again, history is repeating itself. A Clinton does something wrong. Rather than fess up and be part of the solution, it's "deny, deny, deny", triggering massive investigations, massive media attention circus, etc - when those FBI agents should be going after terrorists and the media should be focusing some of their attention on Bernie to get closer to fair balance and solving some of these issues he's talking about.

I'm sick of this crap from the Clintons and you should be too. They need to head out to their pasture of speaking fees - where bilking money out of Wall Street wallets actually might do us some good for a change.

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That's right. This is so ridiculous and tiresome. N/t livetohike Jan 2016 #1
Well I'm happy you cleared that up! nt dorkzilla Jan 2016 #2
We don't know what the content is.. 4139 Jan 2016 #3
Since they are now top secret we won't know, will we? CTyankee Jan 2016 #4
Or were they marked "Top Secret" later by a Hillary hater? IggleDoer Jan 2016 #5
Which is why it's unlikely Clinton will be charged with wrongdoing wyldwolf Jan 2016 #6
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence would be doing a witch hunt. joshcryer Jan 2016 #9
The other day, I drove through a school zone, at the legal speed before the warning lights were on. IggleDoer Jan 2016 #7
Not marked top secret cali Jan 2016 #8
It's the information that is classified.... TipTok Jan 2016 #10
So if I send you a classified document, you are guilty because your email system accepted it? randome Jan 2016 #14
Actually, yes--you have to report it immediately. You can't take it home with you. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #18
'Intent' is part of this determination and there is no intent (none) for Clinton to hide anything. randome Jan 2016 #25
She didn't do it for "convenience". That is ludicrous. It would be far more convenient TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #38
That's the Clinton spin but as usual, not the truth Jarqui Jan 2016 #11
SOS should have enough sense to know what communication is sensitive tk2kewl Jan 2016 #24
Clinton demonstrated a remarkable lack of good judgement Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #12
I think that excuse has worn thin. The information was classified, even if it wasn't TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #13
But it was no problem when Colin Powell did it? kentuck Jan 2016 #15
Colin Powell didn't have his own SERVER SET UP EXCLUSIVELY to avoid State Dept. system. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #17
Where do you get this BS? kentuck Jan 2016 #20
I think you are entirely unaware of this whole issue. You need to educate yourself on the facts. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #21
I have heard enough to know that... kentuck Jan 2016 #26
This isn't about Republicans. It's about the intelligence community, TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #30
It is my understanding that there is an "intelligence branch" within the State Dept... kentuck Jan 2016 #32
You can't jump between systems. Classified networks cannot communicate TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #35
Here you go nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #39
the Republican propaganda handmade34 Jan 2016 #29
yes indeed. This is nothing but a media hit job before Iowa librechik Jan 2016 #16
Timing makes it suspect liberal N proud Jan 2016 #19
exactly. And there is nothing new, except "People are saying" librechik Jan 2016 #23
same as "13 Hours" handmade34 Jan 2016 #31
Right! kentuck Jan 2016 #34
Exactly. There will be no indictment or prosecution. MineralMan Jan 2016 #22
Another waste of everyones time randr Jan 2016 #27
Reading over this thread it's clear that Sanders supporters are hanging their hopes on to anything. Metric System Jan 2016 #28
I'm a Sanders supporter... kentuck Jan 2016 #33
Not really - what I saw was many agreeing with Sanders position of staying 100% out of this karynnj Jan 2016 #36
I will say this once again, this is a highly technical story nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #37
Please consider reposting in GD: P. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #40
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