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10. No but as someone whose dad had his first bypass at age 46

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 01:23 PM

Jan 2016

and who recently lost him at thankfully a much older age but still from a bad heart, I wish we had treated smoking when he was young like it is being treated now. heart bypasses should be rare. and yes needing one at age 46 is tragic. We have way more heart bypasses in this country than we should due to people smoking, eating etc. Similarly we have way more abortions in this country that we should because of people taking seriously the rantings of the spawn of Palin and other deluded nuts. Abortion should be rare and so should heart bypasses.

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The real threat to abortion in Florida isn't an all-out ban [View all] nashville_brook Jan 2016 OP

Death by a thousand cuts. The "right to life" movement makes all kinds of noise bullwinkle428 Jan 2016 #1

they have no interest in overturning Roe. they're achieving their goal w/o it. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #23

+++ "Rare" framing led us directly into these TRAPS. DirkGently Jan 2016 #2

gee nothing is ever the GOP's fault it is always the Clenis dsc Jan 2016 #3

TRAP laws and sellout "rare" framing are at fault. DirkGently Jan 2016 #4

yes it would be much better if we had a billion unplanned pregnancies a year dsc Jan 2016 #5

Would barriers to heart surgery reduce the need for them? DirkGently Jan 2016 #6

No but as someone whose dad had his first bypass at age 46 dsc Jan 2016 #10

So show me the vast numbers of abortions in Oregon. jeff47 Jan 2016 #13

I didn't say we needed regulation dsc Jan 2016 #17

actually, HRC has done more than most to ensure that regulations/restrictions happened nashville_brook Jan 2016 #21

that is utter bullshit dsc Jan 2016 #22

it' not a "hater's club" -- it's the truth, and you can ignore it if you like. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #24

sorry dsc Jan 2016 #26

there's no quotes from those sources. but, feel free to cast aspersions. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #27

that was my reference to du being the Hillary hating club dsc Jan 2016 #28

take responsibility or not. it won't change the truth of the matter. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #29

"Rare" is how you line up votes for chipping away at abortion rights. jeff47 Jan 2016 #32

You are obtuse. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #8

Great post awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #7

Exactly. We're not dealing with DirkGently Jan 2016 #9

compromise, in this arena, has led to the destruction of women's lives. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #25

Agreed. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #30

+++ a million. In this context, this type of compromise = appeasement = death. DirkGently Jan 2016 #34

"Safe, legal and rare" is not just a "Clinton-era mantra". Obama has said it too. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #11

And it was just as wrong when he said it. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #12

Plenty of us support "safe, legal, and rare". Odin2005 Jan 2016 #20

Because "safe and legal" is terrible? jeff47 Jan 2016 #31

It started in the Clinton era of triangulation. DirkGently Jan 2016 #14

I like "safe, legal, accessible and rare". Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #15

The need is never going to go away. DirkGently Jan 2016 #16

Why put "rare" in when it's a natural outcome? jeff47 Feb 2016 #37

K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #18

I think one issue is that we Millennials have no memory of the world before Roe v. Wade. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #19

The problem is that "rare" was the wrong word. haele Jan 2016 #33

Yes, how dare some people have ethical qualms with abortion! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #35

No, ethical qualms not acted on other than by the person who has them are morals. haele Jan 2016 #36