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In reply to the discussion: Why does every religion on the planet [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)94. Anyone who feels he needs to defend the Church from its victims is no ally.
When the Catholic Church owns your doctor: The insidious new threat to affordable birth control
Eight of the largest health systems in America are now Catholic-owned. More and more won't prescribe conraception
Patricia Miller
Angela Valavanis had already had one bad encounter with the Catholic health care system when St. Francis Hospital, the hospital in Evanston, Ill., where she delivered her second baby, refused to allow her OB/GYN to tie her tubes because of Catholic restrictions on the procedure. When she went to her doctors office for a check-up after the birth and asked about going back on the Pill, since she hadnt gotten the sterilization she wanted, she got another shock: My doctor told me that she couldnt prescribe birth control because she had sold her practice to a Catholic health system, said Angela. My mouth dropped open. I was so confused to hear those words coming out of the mouth of an OB/GYN.
An OB/GYN who cant prescribe birth control? Its not some bad joke. It could be a reality if your doctors practice is purchased by a Catholic health system that then imposes the Ethical & Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, a set of rules created by the U.S. Bishops Conference that prohibits doctors from doing everything from prescribing the Pill to performing sterilizations or abortions.
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And with Catholic hospital systems accounting for eight of the 10 of the largest nonprofit health systems in the U.S., these hospitals are poised to become major owners of doctors offices, which could severely impede access to contraceptives if doctors are forced to follow the Directives. The more we see these Catholic systems buying up these practices, the more we are going to see what Angela saw, predicted Lorie Chaiten, director of the Illinois ACLUs Reproductive Rights Project, who notes that such refusals are legal under Illinois Health Care Right of Conscience Act.
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But for some women, changing doctors may not be an option. Health insurers are becoming increasingly restrictive about which hospitals and doctors a patient is allowed to use and may charge a steep penalty for going out of the network of preferred providers. Smaller towns and rural areas may not have a large selection of OB/GYNs. The ACLU is backing a measure in the Illinois Legislature that would require health systems to tell patients beforehand what services they dont provide and where they can get them. Chaiten also encourages women who have been denied reproductive health services for religious reason to report it to the ACLU, which is tracking this trend.
Ironically, Angelas experience with her OB/GYN wasnt her last run-in with Catholic health care. After she was refused a tubal ligation and a prescription for birth control, Angelas husband decided to get a vasectomy. His doctor, who was also part of the Catholic system, said his practice couldnt do the procedure or make a referral. The whole situation is so unbelievable to me. I had no idea these limitations occurred, she says. When I tell my friends about it, they say its medieval. We have to worry that if they keep buying up all these practices, it will get harder and harder to find someone who can prescribe birth control.
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/11/when_the_catholic_church_owns_your_doctor_the_insidious_new_threat_to_affordable_birth_control/
Eight of the largest health systems in America are now Catholic-owned. More and more won't prescribe conraception
Patricia Miller
Angela Valavanis had already had one bad encounter with the Catholic health care system when St. Francis Hospital, the hospital in Evanston, Ill., where she delivered her second baby, refused to allow her OB/GYN to tie her tubes because of Catholic restrictions on the procedure. When she went to her doctors office for a check-up after the birth and asked about going back on the Pill, since she hadnt gotten the sterilization she wanted, she got another shock: My doctor told me that she couldnt prescribe birth control because she had sold her practice to a Catholic health system, said Angela. My mouth dropped open. I was so confused to hear those words coming out of the mouth of an OB/GYN.
An OB/GYN who cant prescribe birth control? Its not some bad joke. It could be a reality if your doctors practice is purchased by a Catholic health system that then imposes the Ethical & Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, a set of rules created by the U.S. Bishops Conference that prohibits doctors from doing everything from prescribing the Pill to performing sterilizations or abortions.
...
And with Catholic hospital systems accounting for eight of the 10 of the largest nonprofit health systems in the U.S., these hospitals are poised to become major owners of doctors offices, which could severely impede access to contraceptives if doctors are forced to follow the Directives. The more we see these Catholic systems buying up these practices, the more we are going to see what Angela saw, predicted Lorie Chaiten, director of the Illinois ACLUs Reproductive Rights Project, who notes that such refusals are legal under Illinois Health Care Right of Conscience Act.
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But for some women, changing doctors may not be an option. Health insurers are becoming increasingly restrictive about which hospitals and doctors a patient is allowed to use and may charge a steep penalty for going out of the network of preferred providers. Smaller towns and rural areas may not have a large selection of OB/GYNs. The ACLU is backing a measure in the Illinois Legislature that would require health systems to tell patients beforehand what services they dont provide and where they can get them. Chaiten also encourages women who have been denied reproductive health services for religious reason to report it to the ACLU, which is tracking this trend.
Ironically, Angelas experience with her OB/GYN wasnt her last run-in with Catholic health care. After she was refused a tubal ligation and a prescription for birth control, Angelas husband decided to get a vasectomy. His doctor, who was also part of the Catholic system, said his practice couldnt do the procedure or make a referral. The whole situation is so unbelievable to me. I had no idea these limitations occurred, she says. When I tell my friends about it, they say its medieval. We have to worry that if they keep buying up all these practices, it will get harder and harder to find someone who can prescribe birth control.
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/11/when_the_catholic_church_owns_your_doctor_the_insidious_new_threat_to_affordable_birth_control/
The RCC is also waging a war on lgbt people but you seem to be more concerned with defending it from its victims and shutting down any criticism on DU than discussing the issue. It's pointless to try to discuss this with you but thanks for giving me the opportunity to post these articles!
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Well they said she was a virgin but since there was no artificial insemination back then
malaise
Jan 2016
#18
Not a single one of my friends stayed in the Church after they were old enough to leave.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#30
Thank you, kind fan. The Christians have no good answer for me on that.
Manifestor_of_Light
Jan 2016
#69
Some break free, more than a few DUers were raised as fundamentalist Christians.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#68
Nope, it's not but they've made it their modern day crusade and they have the numbers to wage it.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#115
Yes, many do but the only one powerful enough here to affect laws is Christianity.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#119
"The RCC was behind every law restricting access to birth control, women's health clinics and
rug
Jan 2016
#82
Every recent law, splitting hairs about how involved the RCC is in restricting my rights?
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#85
Knowing the facts is not splitting hairs. And the issue is far greater than "your" rights.
rug
Jan 2016
#93
Anyone who feels he needs to defend the Church from its victims is no ally.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#94
Has someone ordained you to declaim who is or who is not an ally of whatever you think you're doing?
rug
Jan 2016
#99
Oops, missed one: Catholic dominance over hospitals endangers women
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#100
The Church frames it as a religious war, rug and they wage it every day.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#104
There it is! The word "religious", thanks for admitting that religion is the source.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#106
Another uppity woman speaks: Beatriz Case Reveals Catholic Hierarchy’s War on Women
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#111
Your disregard of Pelosi suggests yorur real target here is not women's rights at all.
rug
Jan 2016
#112
My focus is the Church's war on women and guess who's leading the charge?:
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#114
You asked and I answered, my opinion is just as valid as Nancy's and counts for more than yours.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#121
More: "Thank the Catholic church for terrifying abortion restrictions in Latin America"
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#107
Rightwing Watch: The Personhood Movement: Internal Battles Go Public
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#96
Yes there are female bodhisattvas (enlightened beings) in Buddhism.
Manifestor_of_Light
Jan 2016
#81
Until this year, The Presiding Bishop of the U.S. Episcopal church was Katharine Jefferts Schori...
Journeyman
Jan 2016
#24
Funny thing. Look up the origins of the goddess Columbia and her importance
Promethean
Jan 2016
#128
I think that's true for most institutions - the views of the dominant class prevail
malaise
Jan 2016
#49
And they are codified in texts considered to be hand made by God, backward norms made sacred
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2016
#76
The dictionary definition of the word squaw is "an American Indian Women". Had no idea
doc03
Jan 2016
#133
Movies? Of course one must base all one knows about First Nations people on movies.
Cleita
Jan 2016
#103
TPTB are also killing the planet AKA "Mother" Nature. They really hate women. nt
valerief
Jan 2016
#102
It's easier to justify injustice if you are guided by an invisible being whose will only you know
DFW
Jan 2016
#134
Because almost every religion codifies the existing power structure. eom.
Bad Thoughts
Jan 2016
#144
I think it's more like the power structure adopting and adapting what suits them
malaise
Jan 2016
#148
Yes. It's the outward show of the crux. The crux can be ferreted out. One theory is Marilyn French's
ancianita
Jan 2016
#149
Most of the ones that have gained and retained power were made up for that very reason.
Arugula Latte
Feb 2016
#165