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In reply to the discussion: German Mayor’s Advice to Girls Harassed By Migrants: ‘Just Don’t Provoke Them’ [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)89. No I haven't. Perhaps that is why we don't agree. You are paying attention and I am not.
If I were paying attention, I would say that we are and should be outraged at the criminal migrants and at those police/politicians who have not dealt with them effectively.
If I were paying attention, I would know the information in this wiki:
As of 8 January, federal police had identified 31 suspects, among whom were 18 identified asylum seekers. Of these, 17 were said by the Interior Ministry to be from Algeria or Morocco. There were 2 Germans and one U.S. citizen among the suspects identified. An additional 19 suspects were later identified by Cologne's police as being "almost exclusively" migrants. Of the 19 suspects identified on 11 January, 14 were men from Morocco and Algeria. 10 were asylum seekers, 9 of whom had arrived in Germany after September 2015. The other 9 suspects may be in the country illegally. The number of suspects had risen to 23 by 12 January. The department of public prosecution opened criminal proceedings against 13 people, 5 of whom were in detention at that time.
By 21 January, there were 30 suspects for the Cologne incidents, 25 of them were of Moroccan, Tunisia or Algerian origin. 15 of the 30 were asylum seekers, 2 underage unaccompanied refugees. 8 people were in investigative custody. On 29 January it was reported, that a further suspect, a man from Algeria, was arrested due to property offence and resistance against enforcement officers. Criminal investigations in Cologne were conducted against 44 people, North Africans by majority, 10 of whom were in investigative custody as of 29 January.
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The Interior Minister of the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, Ralf Jäger, said, "We will not accept that groups of North African men gather expressly for the purpose of debasing women by sexually assaulting them." He said police had to "adjust" to the fact that groups of men had attacked women. He also spoke against anti-immigrant groups, saying: "What happens on the right-wing platforms and in chat rooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women ... This is poisoning the climate of our society."
North Rhine-Westphalia's Head of State, Hannelore Kraft, stated that against this new dimension of violence and sexual assaults by men, police and courts should and will act consequently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany#Suspects_and_detainees
My point is not to defend the criminal - the many who were migrants, the 2 who are German citizens, the 1 American - but to be careful not to extend my condemnation of THOSE refugees/migrants to ALL refugees/migrants which included the vast majority who have not taken part in criminal activity. Do you disagree with that? Or should Germany take some action against those who are genuine refugee and have done nothing wrong?
Almost all of those identified and/or arrested in the Munich train station assaults were non-refugees from Morocco and Algeria. Few, if any, were refugees from war-torn Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan. Don't punish genuine refugees from these countries for the crimes of economic migrants from other countries just because they are all Muslims or all Arabs.
Dems_to_Win has a great post yesterday explaining the German police mindset and how it will have to change and adapt.
ALL German law enforcement is 'soft'. They don't want to be hard-ass Nazis.
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German Mayor’s Advice to Girls Harassed By Migrants: ‘Just Don’t Provoke Them’ [View all]
leftynyc
Feb 2016
OP
It's a town of 6,000 people. With all the mayors in Germany, someone has to say something stupid
pampango
Feb 2016
#12
Indeed he was and his statement "prompted an outpouring of jeers". Just because he's
pampango
Feb 2016
#26
The OP is about a "German Mayor's Advice ...". I don't consider it deflection to condemn the mayor
pampango
Feb 2016
#50
So no response to my post, just a vague reference to 'your history'. Nice deflection
pampango
Feb 2016
#69
Not that only right wingers care about women, but only right wingers complain about the migrants
smirkymonkey
Feb 2016
#68
Those "Swedes" were neo-Nazis attacking anyone who looked like they were a foreigner.
pampango
Feb 2016
#63
The country ranked number 2 for number of rapes as a percentage of population is:
guillaumeb
Feb 2016
#38
truly spoken like someone who's has had the privilege of only living in a 1st world country
climber3986
Feb 2016
#39
I previously posted links to German sites that talk about the persistent problem with
guillaumeb
Feb 2016
#48
I expect the same people here to keep posting the same racist, Islamophobic nonsense,
guillaumeb
Feb 2016
#60
We should get upset by rapes "done at the hands of those INVITED in". But collective guilt
pampango
Feb 2016
#79
No I haven't. Perhaps that is why we don't agree. You are paying attention and I am not.
pampango
Feb 2016
#89