Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
90. In response to your too kind invitation:
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:56 PM
Feb 2016

Here is one such story that perhaps you have forgotten:

A multi-decade movement of Okinawa residents has pushed for ousting U.S. forces off the island, citing environmental concerns and sexual assaults by U.S. soldiers on local residents.
The 1995 rape, the world—very widely reported rape, and it’s often cited as a trigger of the island-wide protest. I do hesitate to characterize the incident that way, because women’s movement with whom I have been working with for 15, 17 years by now, they first—they were the ones who first raised their voice in public to call for more attention to the history, long history, of sexual violence. The 1995 rape is not the only one. It was—because of the courage of the young victim, it was reported to the police, and it was reported in Okinawa, and the people knew about that. And that, in fact, led the wide rage among Okinawan people that enough is enough, because they had had enough sexual violence cases, but other violence cases against people in Okinawa by the soldiers.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/1/16/okinawas_revolt_decades_of_rape_environmental

Decades of abuse by US soldiers who felt untouchable. In Okinawa, not Europe, but I trust you can make the connection and see my point. You really should read the entire interview. I could give you a few more citations about US rape culture on Okinawa, but one is enough.

Gang Rapes and Beatings, Brothels Filled with Teenage Prostitutes -- The Depths of American Brutality in Vietnam

The disdainful attitude that led American troops to gleefully cut off ears and run down pedestrians by the roadside was even stronger when it came to a group that, for the young soldiers, was doubly “other”: Vietnamese women. As a result, sexual violence and sexual exploitation became an omnipresent part of the American War. With their husbands or fathers away at war or dead because of it, without other employment prospects and desperate to provide for their families, many women found that catering to the desires of U.S. soldiers was their only option.

By 1966, as the feminist scholar Susan Brownmiller observed, the 1st Cavalry Division, the 1st Infantry Division, and the 4th Infantry Division had all already “established official military brothels within the perimeter of their basecamps.” At the 1st Infantry Division base at Lai Khe, refugee women—recruited by the South Vietnamese province chief and channeled into their jobs by the mayor of the town—worked in sixty curtained cubicles kept under military police guard. Jim Soular of the 1st Cavalry Division recalled the setup at his unit’s compound, known as Sin City.

http://www.alternet.org/books/gang-rapes-and-beatings-brothels-filled-teenage-prostitutes-depths-american-brutality-vietnam

Shall I continue? Believe me when I say that I can. So when you, or any others here speak about a culture of rape, or a culture inconsistent with western values, what exactly are you talking about?

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Duh shenmue Feb 2016 #1
Nothing to see here... TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #2
Grrr! smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #16
It happens every single time leftynyc Feb 2016 #23
Listen to this program TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #28
Damn tootin'!! hifiguy Feb 2016 #61
They need a German translation of this... C_U_L8R Feb 2016 #3
11. Don't leer at and harrass 10-year old girls who are walking to school. Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #13
I wish I could rec this. 11 Bravo Feb 2016 #36
I'd suspect the men that need it most can't read German. EL34x4 Feb 2016 #80
If you side with women you side with RW fascists Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #4
Well at least throw in some disparaging remarks about the West, Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #15
No, you're an Islamaphobe. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #31
we are close to a tipping point in human relations Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2016 #5
How do you say "teabagger" auf Deutsch? KamaAina Feb 2016 #6
Who is the "teabagger" in this case, and why? Quantess Feb 2016 #7
The mayor, for blaming the victim KamaAina Feb 2016 #8
Please don't roll your eyes at me. Quantess Feb 2016 #10
I'm rolling my eyes at Hizzoner. KamaAina Feb 2016 #11
Exactly! It seem like the mere existence of smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #18
Same applies to far too many western males too. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #30
I agree with you, then! Quantess Feb 2016 #20
It's a town of 6,000 people. With all the mayors in Germany, someone has to say something stupid pampango Feb 2016 #12
He's been voted leader of that community leftynyc Feb 2016 #24
Indeed he was and his statement "prompted an outpouring of jeers". Just because he's pampango Feb 2016 #26
I wasn't referring to today leftynyc Feb 2016 #40
The OP is about a "German Mayor's Advice ...". I don't consider it deflection to condemn the mayor pampango Feb 2016 #50
Your history leftynyc Feb 2016 #57
So no response to my post, just a vague reference to 'your history'. Nice deflection pampango Feb 2016 #69
A "small town" mayor with a 'small town' conservative, macho mentality. pampango Feb 2016 #9
No politicians in Germany will stand up for women and girls Dems to Win Feb 2016 #14
Where are the women speaking out leftynyc Feb 2016 #17
Or are they and the media is just ignoring them? smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #19
Why would the media leftynyc Feb 2016 #22
Not that only right wingers care about women, but only right wingers complain about the migrants smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #68
I've said this before leftynyc Feb 2016 #85
Organized feminism is stymied by multiculturalism Dems to Win Feb 2016 #25
Why would it be stymied? leftynyc Feb 2016 #43
They are DFW Feb 2016 #32
100% agreement leftynyc Feb 2016 #44
Post-war German law was written for a homogeneous Germany DFW Feb 2016 #46
I understand the lenient immigration laws leftynyc Feb 2016 #53
ALL German law enforcement is 'soft'. They don't want to be hard-ass Nazis Dems to Win Feb 2016 #65
Great post. A lot of useful information. n/t pampango Feb 2016 #66
This Laissez-faire style of policing is only going to embolden the smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #71
Agreed. It will have to change as the link in that post indicates. pampango Feb 2016 #76
Your article reminded me of something leftynyc Feb 2016 #84
It's the non-enforcement of the laws that are causing the problems. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #81
Nein!!! Initech Feb 2016 #21
To all the Democratic Islamophobes here: guillaumeb Feb 2016 #27
Those Swedes are reacting to murders commited by migrants. StrongBad Feb 2016 #33
So a Swedish reaction that was supposedly a reaction is fine? guillaumeb Feb 2016 #37
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #49
You should be more assertive, and less diplomatic. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #54
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #59
Words fail me. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #62
"your limp wristed criticism". Nice gay slur. Very convincing. n/t pampango Feb 2016 #64
+1000 Agreed smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #82
Those "Swedes" were neo-Nazis attacking anyone who looked like they were a foreigner. pampango Feb 2016 #63
talking out of your ass. climber3986 Feb 2016 #34
The country ranked number 2 for number of rapes as a percentage of population is: guillaumeb Feb 2016 #38
truly spoken like someone who's has had the privilege of only living in a 1st world country climber3986 Feb 2016 #39
Rape in the US is also heavily underreported: guillaumeb Feb 2016 #42
and im telling you that climber3986 Feb 2016 #45
I previously posted links to German sites that talk about the persistent problem with guillaumeb Feb 2016 #48
Gee - can't imagine leftynyc Feb 2016 #51
Certain types of unwanted sexual contact are actually not illegal branford Feb 2016 #56
Rape is illegal in the United States Democat Feb 2016 #88
Thank you for your perspective. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #72
And along comes the deflections leftynyc Feb 2016 #47
Step 1) Carefully set up straw man, guillaumeb Feb 2016 #52
Yawn leftynyc Feb 2016 #55
I expect the same people here to keep posting the same racist, Islamophobic nonsense, guillaumeb Feb 2016 #60
Religion is not protected here. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #67
What you said! hifiguy Feb 2016 #73
I understand you point. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #75
OMG TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #77
Unbelievable bullshit! smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #83
Do feel free to link leftynyc Feb 2016 #86
In response to your too kind invitation: guillaumeb Feb 2016 #90
We should get upset by rapes "done at the hands of those INVITED in". But collective guilt pampango Feb 2016 #79
Have you been paying attention? leftynyc Feb 2016 #87
No I haven't. Perhaps that is why we don't agree. You are paying attention and I am not. pampango Feb 2016 #89
That's totally different mwrguy Feb 2016 #78
Just unbelievable! nt rtw Feb 2016 #29
Does that town have a way to recall the mayor? NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #35
This is where cultural relativism and feminism begin to clash davidn3600 Feb 2016 #41
What the blueberry hifiguy Feb 2016 #58
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #74
Thwack and w0nderer kicks it across the field into the goal zone N/T w0nderer Feb 2016 #70
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»German Mayor’s Advice to ...»Reply #90