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RoccoR5955

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22. Not with the bloat that comes with windows.

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:04 PM

Feb 2016

Besides, are you counting the time that it takes for you to build a PC? My build rate is $150/hr. I have built hundreds of PCs in my day, but once I bought my first Mac, I realized what a fool I was for building a "cheaper" computer.
Oh, and you cannot build a laptop like my MacBook Pro, which I have had for about 5 years now. I maxed out the RAM, and installed and SSD, since I got it. It STILL screams, and the battery lasts about 4 hours. Can you say that about ANY $500 Windows laptop? I didn't think so.

Look at the components that come on a Mac, and compare them to a PC. Then add the software that you have to buy for a PC in order to do word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, and you have another $200.
For another couple of hundred bucks, I can have a refurbished Mac, with the same warranty that you get with a new one. The only difference is that it is not today's model, and it comes in a white box.

If you buy a cheap laptop for instance, you save no money, because in two years it will not hold a charge, and you have to buy software, and uninstall all the teaser-ware that comes with each and every laptop.

Windows may pay my bills (at least for the next couple of years until I retire) but at home, it's Mac and Linux all the way!

I can say this confidently, because I have 26 years of work experience with computers. I have built, and help manage a 5000 node network, and I support at least as many users.

I AM what you can call, the ORIGINAL PC Wizard!

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Your PC is about to automatically download and install Windows 10 [View all] Little Tich Feb 2016 OP

In this case free costs to much.....use this - gwx-stopper. yourout Feb 2016 #1

I am not sure that tool will block this. That is for the offer they have been making CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #9

GWX Control Panel claims to block it completely starroute Feb 2016 #31

It's the same one I linked. yourout Feb 2016 #34

How can I migrate to Linux? hifiguy Feb 2016 #121

Find a Linux distro that you want. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #133

Windows 7 is just as much a spy tool GummyBearz Feb 2016 #72

Shucks - I'm still running NT 3.5! jonno99 Feb 2016 #85

Nowhere near 10. And in 7 you can turn off things 10 won't let you hobbit709 Feb 2016 #134

Or....upgrade by buying an Apple. n/t Lodestar Feb 2016 #79

Thanks for posting that link. pintobean Feb 2016 #137

I went out of my way to buy a Windows 7 computer when 8 was out. I don't see how they CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #2

so did i -- on the advice of my tech guy. DesertFlower Feb 2016 #11

They can do this because you "signed" an agreement. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #26

Yeah, I knew that, but they are still doing something they have never done before. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #51

Seems to me then that we can split hairs, too. kentauros Feb 2016 #60

Nope, if you read it RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #62

Well, that's still the excuse I'd use kentauros Feb 2016 #67

I did too. I don't care that it's old tech. It's stable . hedda_foil Feb 2016 #90

Why I set Windows Update to "Notify But Don't Download Updates" hobbit709 Feb 2016 #3

How do I do that? pangaia Feb 2016 #28

For Windows 7, first click Start, then Control Panel. Locate the Windows Update link and click on it arcane1 Feb 2016 #33

Thanks got it. pangaia Feb 2016 #41

Note that you'll need to check available updates periodically and download ones you want pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #61

Would it even bother doing this to my six-year-old XP box? KamaAina Feb 2016 #57

I highly doubt my ancient WinXP Home laptop could run windows 10. peacebird Feb 2016 #106

Control Panel, Windows Update, Change settings. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #37

Thanks got it. pangaia Feb 2016 #42

Yep, me too n/t Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #30

Bugger that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #4

Screw that. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #5

Might want to be looking into Spybot Anti-Beacon navarth Feb 2016 #6

Oh, that's just great. Fucking great. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2016 #7

OK Microsoft, now you've done it. lpbk2713 Feb 2016 #75

I'm sure they don't give a flying fuck, sweetie! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2016 #78

OH MAN!! CalPeggy is REALLY pissed!! She dropped the "F-Bomb"!! madinmaryland Feb 2016 #119

Sorry to say that it doesn't take much these days, my dear madinmaryland! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2016 #124

You cussed !!! ??? !!! KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #128

I got Windows 10 and went back to 8.1 because it was forcing my PC to stay asleep. EllieBC Feb 2016 #8

i keep getting this message. i have windows 7. DesertFlower Feb 2016 #10

8 is great compared to 10. And 8 sucks. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #12

thanks for the info. my tech guy DesertFlower Feb 2016 #14

That guy is on a mission Egnever Feb 2016 #122

I have to disagree Travis_0004 Feb 2016 #64

If they had a 9 it would have been good, instead they gave 2 crap versions in a row. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #68

I like 10. tabasco Feb 2016 #123

I do agree. Win 10 is better than Win 8. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #84

I have not had issues with 10 Marrah_G Feb 2016 #13

That you know of... SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #58

Wouldn't have this problem with a Macintosh... brooklynite Feb 2016 #15

Yeah because Apple has never given anything away for free. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #16

Rimshot.....good one. yourout Feb 2016 #18

Apple stopped charging for OS updates years ago. brooklynite Feb 2016 #19

Apparently you don't own a Mac. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #24

They gave OS X "Mavericks" and "Yosemite" free, and begin_within Feb 2016 #125

I can build 5 PCs for what one Mac costs. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #17

Not with the bloat that comes with windows. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #22

My first build was a M.I.T.S. Altair 8800 hobbit709 Feb 2016 #35

So your labor costs are high RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #40

Laptops aren't really buildable. Motherboards and cases aren't exactly freely available. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #44

I generally charge by what kind of car is in the driveway myself. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #46

The computer gods must be appeased with a little blood sacrifice every now and then. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #49

The old S100 bus, great for learning computing from scratch DustyJoe Feb 2016 #45

SSD is the absolute best for speed. Dragonfli Feb 2016 #39

You can certainly run Windows on a Mac. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #43

I didn't know that, but wouldn't loading Windows on a Mac Dragonfli Feb 2016 #47

Oh with Boot Camp RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #50

To be honest I am envious, how much would I have to invest to get an air machine Dragonfli Feb 2016 #55

Photoshop used to run better on a Mac. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #59

Thanks for the info, If I do somehow get the scratch for a major buy Dragonfli Feb 2016 #69

Wow talk about drinking the cool aide Egnever Feb 2016 #127

Not with a Linux, either. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #29

Last Windows I used on my own machines was 98SE. hunter Feb 2016 #89

We have friends who have a small business. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #100

Not mine. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #20

I bought a new laptop, and it runs Windows 10 Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #21

They changed the name of that browser. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #23

No, it is much worse that Internet Explorer. It crashes my graphics card. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #25

It's not Internet Explorer. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #27

I've had a Mac. Worst computer and tablet I ever owned. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #38

IE and Edge are crap. Use Firefox or Chrome. n/t backscatter712 Feb 2016 #113

The funny thing about Windows 10... backscatter712 Feb 2016 #80

I might as well get the NSA watching this thread more closely... backscatter712 Feb 2016 #83

Prevent the download. moondust Feb 2016 #32

Thanks! 2naSalit Feb 2016 #73

I may also get rid of Windows. moondust Feb 2016 #74

Same here. 2naSalit Feb 2016 #81

With every passing day, Linux gets more and more user friendly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #103

Not on mine.......... bowens43 Feb 2016 #36

And with Puppy Linux RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #48

I like Puppy too PeoViejo Feb 2016 #108

I had to jump in here, when I saw Puppy Linux. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #115

I owe you big time Little Tich! Marie Marie Feb 2016 #52

I like Windows 10 MuseRider Feb 2016 #53

Me, too. n/t UTUSN Feb 2016 #63

And that's why SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #54

Out of all the patches and fixes on XP, I used about 12. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #65

That's how I have mine currently set, kentauros Feb 2016 #66

I just installed Windows 10 and I like it. DCBob Feb 2016 #56

Depends on how much you mind being tracked. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #70

A serious question. In what way is it better than Windows 7? CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #76

For me, it was having an aging laptop that was technically designed for Windows 8, downgraded to 7.. Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #82

The one I bought came with 7 even though 8 was out. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #86

For one thing easier access to everything Egnever Feb 2016 #129

Not on my machine IDemo Feb 2016 #71

Eggs in one basket earthshine Feb 2016 #91

The takeover is complete all hail Skynet 10. Rex Feb 2016 #77

Recommend. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #87

is this the version that is free the first year and after that you have to pay for it every year? hollysmom Feb 2016 #88

I have not heard anything to this effect earthshine Feb 2016 #92

found it hollysmom Feb 2016 #95

I don't think we'll be forced to the subscription model. earthshine Feb 2016 #97

Windows 365 is already out. Companies use it so everyone can a cess their crap in the cloud. peacebird Feb 2016 #107

when I hear " the cloud" I think "the internets" and silently laugh at myself. hollysmom Feb 2016 #117

What is the reluctance about? Quantess Feb 2016 #93

If it's an older PC, I imagine that Windows 10 will run like treacle Orrex Feb 2016 #96

Yep. What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away. n/t backscatter712 Feb 2016 #109

Win 10 passes a LOT of info back and forth constantly to the net. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #105

Here is how to stop the spying in Win 7, 8, 8.1. earthshine Feb 2016 #94

I knew about KB3035583. Iggo Feb 2016 #114

That will block only the upgrade to Win 10 ... earthshine Feb 2016 #116

Thanks for the info! Iggo Feb 2016 #118

I have Windows 8 phylny Feb 2016 #98

Meh Spider Jerusalem Feb 2016 #99

And then there are those of us who run things like a single core AMD Semprons with 1GB ram... hunter Feb 2016 #111

This happened to me last fall. polly7 Feb 2016 #101

Better be safe than sorry. DON'T! DetlefK Feb 2016 #102

That's what I had heard, that a lot of programs wouldn't be compatible with it. polly7 Feb 2016 #104

If you do upgrade to Win 10, one tip to make it more usable: backscatter712 Feb 2016 #110

No worries Mr Dixon Feb 2016 #112

k and r..nt Stuart G Feb 2016 #120

Linux leaves Windows in the dust. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #126

No way would my old desktop PC run this. It can barely handle Vista. ladyVet Feb 2016 #130

Vista is a resource hog. 7 runs much faster on the same hardware than Vista. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #136

Let's at least call the FCC, and our U.S. Rep and Senators and complain.Taxpayers built the inernet, Todays_Illusion Feb 2016 #131

The motherboard in my laptop conveniently died about 10 days ago mnhtnbb Feb 2016 #132

My dish internet limits me to 5gb per month. The download is over 6gb's. B Calm Feb 2016 #135