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Nuclear Unicorn

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24. No, but when the choice is

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 05:49 PM

Feb 2016

A. women be safe from a culture that instills norms of sexual assault and murder or

B. "OMG TEH RW!"

Women's safety first. If you can't see that feel free to walk away; we don't need you.

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Her Father Shot Her in the Head, as an �Honor Killing� [View all] FLPanhandle Feb 2016 OP

Islam: The religion of peace that we should all respect. n/t Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #1

honor killings aren't only done in the name of religion ya know. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #5

Who else are you referring to? TipTok Feb 2016 #12

Other civilizations and cultures in general. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #17

You might want to read up on honor killings. Squinch Feb 2016 #34

It's not an exclusively Muslim issue LeftishBrit Feb 2016 #169

True. It's also called for in the Old Testament. And for those who say it's a "cultural" issue... Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #173

And to criticize this barbarism is to make me a "bigot", apparently. n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #2

Right kcr Feb 2016 #3

No, but when the choice is Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #24

Not sure if you meant to respond to me kcr Feb 2016 #44

No it doesn't treestar Feb 2016 #51

+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #79

Unless you're using cases like the OP to argue that all Muslims are filthy savages... nomorenomore08 Feb 2016 #74

I hear ya... I can't imagine hurting a stranger because an imaginary red and blue line tells me to. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #4

Shame is a powerful primate force. byronius Feb 2016 #6

Fundy Christians and Islam most dangerous orgs on Earth. ErikJ Feb 2016 #7

And here we go again leftynyc Feb 2016 #10

One group kills in the name of their God pretty regularly... TipTok Feb 2016 #14

I have no idea what leftynyc Feb 2016 #16

Here's a link to clarify... TipTok Feb 2016 #31

Do numbers play any part? FrodosPet Feb 2016 #38

As I said... TipTok Feb 2016 #39

So you went with leftynyc Feb 2016 #41

Are you forgetting that it took years to infiltrate the FLDS wackos... TipTok Feb 2016 #49

IF IF IF IF leftynyc Feb 2016 #86

Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time... TipTok Feb 2016 #99

No - all you do leftynyc Feb 2016 #106

Back again to arguing the merits of rape vs murder.... TipTok Feb 2016 #107

I think you look leftynyc Feb 2016 #108

This conversation has likely shed light to a few on an important topic.... TipTok Feb 2016 #111

YOU accuse ME of false accusations? leftynyc Feb 2016 #118

If your post is 118... TipTok Feb 2016 #121

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #171

Please excuse their confusion and unfamiliarity with fact. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #95

So you're OK with leftynyc Feb 2016 #120

you seem to have a problem. Several. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #122

Gee, so sorry that leftynyc Feb 2016 #123

your sister's in a muslim country? ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #124

LOL - now a grammar nazi leftynyc Feb 2016 #126

Literally no one has displayed anything but sympathy for the daughter... TipTok Feb 2016 #127

Oh - please do point out where leftynyc Feb 2016 #132

Do you need someone to explicity spell out and affirm that shooting girls in the head is bad... TipTok Feb 2016 #135

Contribute to what? leftynyc Feb 2016 #137

As I said before... The adults in the room can do both... TipTok Feb 2016 #139

Then why couldn't you? (n/t) leftynyc Feb 2016 #144

I made the apparently erroneous assumption that we were all in agreement that shooting children... TipTok Feb 2016 #146

Pretending this was merely leftynyc Feb 2016 #159

It is possible to stay on topic... TipTok Feb 2016 #160

I'm not dictating anything leftynyc Feb 2016 #162

Are you sure? TipTok Feb 2016 #164

That's not what I said at all leftynyc Feb 2016 #165

Maybe you should speak more precisely... TipTok Feb 2016 #166

Bullshit leftynyc Feb 2016 #167

No hypocrisy here... TipTok Feb 2016 #168

Just a vote of confidence for you lefty...I get this crap all the time from the sheep. nt clarice Feb 2016 #141

Appreciate it, Clarice leftynyc Feb 2016 #145

I swear... I have thought about it and thought about it....... clarice Feb 2016 #151

Yes, I do leftynyc Feb 2016 #156

You're probably right.nt clarice Feb 2016 #157

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #172

Who's your baby???.lol nt clarice Feb 2016 #174

I will not support ANY Bible based fundamentalism ErikJ Feb 2016 #33

Oh you'll see plenty leftynyc Feb 2016 #46

Thank you. 840high Feb 2016 #52

I am sick of that S%#@ too. Good on ya mate.nt clarice Feb 2016 #140

Tell me the last time a fundy Christian or Jew tried to kill their OWN CHILD in the smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #35

I agree. We need more Westerners to shame them for it ErikJ Feb 2016 #37

Ideology. There are forms of Islam that absolutely preach what you are describing. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #56

You're kidding, right? Tsiyu Feb 2016 #66

However, it is COMMON in Islam. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #81

Rare, like the ancient tradition of pederasty in the catholic church Fairgo Feb 2016 #92

Give me a break. There is no comparison against Islam smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #190

Tell that to the babies who died in the Irish laundries Tsiyu Feb 2016 #191

For one thing, I am a liberal. Secondly those are all one off cases smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #193

Routine abuse you say? Tsiyu Feb 2016 #192

It is a crime in this country and perpetrators will be jailed if caught. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #194

You live in a dream world Tsiyu Feb 2016 #195

Faten Habash was beaten to death by her father for marrying a non-Christian Recursion Feb 2016 #77

Piece of piss whatthehey Feb 2016 #103

Not nearly as much as muslims. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #142

And if you decide that instead of making a stupid declaration easily proven false whatthehey Feb 2016 #205

Yep. For all their repressive and awful beliefs and actions, hifiguy Feb 2016 #176

There is no reason to designate a religion in my opinion, fundies are a breed apart from their Rex Feb 2016 #40

Yes. Like those Christian Fundies who refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings. Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #59

Well you cannot talk about a culture where fathers murder their daughters, because of their egos. Rex Feb 2016 #63

Sorry, I'm unconvinced cali Feb 2016 #80

Why are you sorry, it doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not. Rex Feb 2016 #129

Me too.nt clarice Feb 2016 #143

OK, but how about the Palestinian Christian I mentioned above beating his daughter TO DEATH Recursion Feb 2016 #100

Or the deadly beatings in the name of Christian "discipline"..or the exorcism deaths..or whatthehey Feb 2016 #104

The problem is fundamentalism, those that don't want to deal with reality Rex Feb 2016 #130

just sent this to my two daughters SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #8

Wow!!!! well done. nt clarice Feb 2016 #147

I can't believe she leftynyc Feb 2016 #9

Bad people do bad things... good people do good things... TipTok Feb 2016 #11

Very true. And it makes already bad people do *even worse* things. n/t nomorenomore08 Feb 2016 #75

So if I see a Muslim how frightened do you think I should be? nt el_bryanto Feb 2016 #13

It depends on whether they are fundamentalists, and whether you are a woman. If the Squinch Feb 2016 #27

You do understand that this is a story about an actual person and that the film about her is Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #28

+1000 FLPanhandle Feb 2016 #29

If they are yelling "Allahu Akbar", Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #42

This is a stupid reply, and offensive to those who care about the millions of women Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #57

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #82

AWESOME post leftynyc Feb 2016 #94

I wish that everyone on DU would read the post to which I responded, and think about what it really Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #155

What has been apparent for some time leftynyc Feb 2016 #158

Yes, that is obvious. It gives one a very worried outlook. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #161

The battle will never end leftynyc Feb 2016 #163

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #188

BAM! scarletlib Feb 2016 #96

Yes, agreed. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2016 #101

You GO girl.nt clarice Feb 2016 #153

depends on your location snooper2 Feb 2016 #149

in many Muslim families the women and girls live in mortal fear geek tragedy Feb 2016 #201

But, I'm told on DU that this religion is just a lot of very sweet looking smiling children in white Squinch Feb 2016 #15

We also ARREST and TRY leftynyc Feb 2016 #18

There is a recent influx of people in a neighborhood where I work where the women all wear Squinch Feb 2016 #21

Agree leftynyc Feb 2016 #22

Well, head on up to the Bronx. Squinch Feb 2016 #26

The only judgement from me leftynyc Feb 2016 #45

Have to disagree on one point, just as a matter of accuracy. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2016 #98

Yes, I see what you mean, but there are people in Indonesia who do nothing like this, and Squinch Feb 2016 #175

A perfect example of a cretin who feels completely and totally justified in his child rape... TipTok Feb 2016 #32

And he's going to rot in prison leftynyc Feb 2016 #48

The reason he is in jail is because of the secular criminal justice system.... TipTok Feb 2016 #50

And that has fuck all to do leftynyc Feb 2016 #87

Except that in our culture, the social/political/justice system doesn't allow it. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #58

That is despite religion... TipTok Feb 2016 #60

This is not about religion. It is about culture. n/t Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #61

Religion is the basis of most cultures... TipTok Feb 2016 #62

The culture existed before the religion. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #64

Muhammed married a 6-year old and had sex with her when she was 9. Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #65

She was probably considerably older than that. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #67

OK, some say she was 9 year old when they married and 12 years old when they had sex. Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #68

Ahh... the no true scotsman bit... TipTok Feb 2016 #69

I wouldn't say that at all. There are in fact several Islams, and one disputed one Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #72

Thank you for pointing out that important distinction. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #83

I'm sick and tired of this bullshit leftynyc Feb 2016 #88

K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #19

It's completely beyond me how a father could do this to his daughter. drm604 Feb 2016 #20

Not in that community leftynyc Feb 2016 #23

I know. drm604 Feb 2016 #25

The COMMUNITY leftynyc Feb 2016 #43

.^that 840high Feb 2016 #53

I just cannot understand the mindset of this culture. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #84

The women are SHAMED into leftynyc Feb 2016 #89

It's a vile, degenerate culture there. Boys are raised to hate all women geek tragedy Feb 2016 #202

It would have been more honorable for the father to shoot himself in the head. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #30

A GREAT alternative. nt clarice Feb 2016 #154

But, that is ethnocentric! Quantess Feb 2016 #204

Most parents would die to save their own children, not this scum. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #36

On the one hand, religion is just ridiculous. Iggo Feb 2016 #47

There should be a law that you can strip titles like 'father' from people. Rex Feb 2016 #54

It's so incredibly sick. For the life of me, I can't understand it. Every male in my smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #55

+2 nomorenomore08 Feb 2016 #76

k&r Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #70

All horrible things done in the name of religion suck Tsiyu Feb 2016 #71

Religion of peace. romanic Feb 2016 #73

I think some cultures have a very different set of emotions Marrah_G Feb 2016 #78

I'm sorry. I just don't see how it's natural to murder your own child. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #85

No, I dont think natural is the word Marrah_G Feb 2016 #177

once you believe nonsense, you can be made to believe anything Skittles Feb 2016 #90

That is so tragic. nt raccoon Feb 2016 #91

The Muslim religion was at fault? I read she ran off with her boyfriend against her B Calm Feb 2016 #93

So, it's her fault? What in the heck is your point? TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #128

I never said it was her fault, but I don't see where in the article where it was the Muslim B Calm Feb 2016 #133

A society that tolerates the murder of women for religious reasons is at fault. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2016 #131

Was this incident about religious reasons? B Calm Feb 2016 #134

Yes. Did you read the full NY times article? n/t prayin4rain Feb 2016 #136

Yes I read the OP link. Copy and paste what you are referring to and I'll be happy to admit I B Calm Feb 2016 #138

If you're going to feign ignorance, there's really no point, is there? prayin4rain Feb 2016 #148

Is it the word honor killing? B Calm Feb 2016 #150

Fundamentalism is a mental disorder. People who are that far gone into religion... backscatter712 Feb 2016 #97

I agree. Super religious people are literally insane, in my opinion. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2016 #102

It is terrible. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #105

She killed them for religious reasons? And other families who believe as she prayin4rain Feb 2016 #109

I don't know why she did it. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #110

Nobody said all Muslims are bad. Religious beliefs that lead prayin4rain Feb 2016 #112

I did read the article. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #114

Hindu honour killing. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #115

From your article. .. prayin4rain Feb 2016 #116

What about a country that orchestrates or tries to orchestrate coups in Latin America? Bad Dog Feb 2016 #119

Again, again, again, the original post is not an attack on Muslims in general, nor prayin4rain Feb 2016 #125

Don't talk nonsense. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #179

Yes, I do have an understanding prayin4rain Feb 2016 #181

This is an article that allows you all to air your prejudices without doing anything about it. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #183

If you have a plan on how I can prayin4rain Feb 2016 #184

Let's turn that on its head. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #186

What? ? prayin4rain Feb 2016 #187

Trump's rhetoric definitely seems to have some reverberations on here. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #196

Yes, it is not just muslims, it is certain cultures Marrah_G Feb 2016 #178

A few? leftynyc Feb 2016 #117

I'm not trying to change the subject I'm pointing out what's going on. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #180

I can't understand it either awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #113

Sounds like someone needs "Honor Life Without Parole" NobodyHere Feb 2016 #152

Violence toward women and girls is far too common in this world LeftishBrit Feb 2016 #170

Liberals are making Baby Jesus Cry!!!!! Tsiyu Feb 2016 #182

+1 great post! B Calm Feb 2016 #185

Thanks B Calm Tsiyu Feb 2016 #189

There has been a flood of threads like this on DU mwrguy Feb 2016 #197

So what, you think it's all propaganda? Quantess Feb 2016 #198

Of course it's not only on DU mwrguy Feb 2016 #199

That sounds so very enlightening. Quantess Feb 2016 #200

Pakistan isn't an Arab country. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #203

i would consider it an "honor killing" to execute those men and their ilk (bad Democrat, I know). WinkyDink Feb 2016 #206