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passiveporcupine

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58. I don't understand what state lines have to do with it anyway
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

shouldn't we have representation based on actual numbers of people?

I mean, in congress, do bills actually hurt or help one state more than another? Not counting headcounts that is. Would some bills that help farmers fail to pass because the rural states don't have enough representation? Should farm states have the power to pass bills that give huge subsidies to corporate farmers that maybe are not in the best interest of the rest of the economy, or even smaller farmers in those states?

I guess, thinking of the gun issue, Sander's says that in Vermont they don't need the kind of gun laws that DC or Chicago needs, so a gun bill in congress might impact his state more than his constituents want, but who the hell cares, if it saves people's lives over the entire country?

I'm just using this as an example because it's a current issue, and I know that Sanders is for progressive gun laws that make sense for everyone. They don't stop hunters from owning a rifle for hunting. I think he understands now that any gun laws he supports are for the good of the entire country, not just his state. He's thinking nationally now, and not just representing his state (which was his job as senator).

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Weirdly it seems to work for them yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #1
Well, in a way, it is KamaAina Feb 2016 #2
I really don't understand this. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #44
It was a compromise made to get smaller colonies like Delaware on board KamaAina Feb 2016 #45
Well, maybe it's time it was revisited. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #46
Okay, take it up at the constitutional convention. KamaAina Feb 2016 #47
this was a compromise needed when the Constitution was written nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #48
I ran the numbers once elljay Feb 2016 #56
I don't understand what state lines have to do with it anyway passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #58
Well, when we run lousy candidates against them, they don't lose. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #8
Imagine what a difference it would make for DEMs to mention this in the fall. Octafish Feb 2016 #26
How "Lousy" must they be kacekwl Feb 2016 #35
:facepalm: jeff47 Feb 2016 #36
You may be correct that some candidates did dumb shit but kacekwl Feb 2016 #53
It's the job of candidates to turn out voters. It is not the voters job to turn out for candidates. jeff47 Feb 2016 #57
It is the voters job to turn out. If they did we would not have kacekwl Feb 2016 #65
Again, no. It's a democracy. The government, and the people running to be in it jeff47 Feb 2016 #67
Democracy, by the people for the people. kacekwl Feb 2016 #68
The employer has no duty to hire. jeff47 Feb 2016 #69
Ok kacekwl Feb 2016 #70
It's your analogy. jeff47 Feb 2016 #71
IMO it's not how lousy the dem candidates are. Years and years of 24/7 right wing hate radio . . . brush Feb 2016 #41
So, they are going to sit on their asses and do nothing, but they will continue to draw Arkansas Granny Feb 2016 #3
They're already bust with more important thngs HassleCat Feb 2016 #4
--- doing what's best for the (Republican) conference... as for doing what's best for the rest of us Hoppy Feb 2016 #5
You said almost exactly what I was going to say. beac Feb 2016 #59
Its classic smoke and mirrors. Keep their constituents' eyes on that there's a black Muslim in the Hoppy Feb 2016 #61
It is extemely frustrating to watch so many of our fellow citizens beac Feb 2016 #62
Well since it isn't looking good for a Rep win in Nov , I'd say he is waiting for a Clinton rhett o rick Feb 2016 #6
And they wonder why citizens are revolting . . . Vinca Feb 2016 #7
Citizens are revolting because McConnell and his ilk are revolting! nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #12
"But if cowardice permeates every corner of the Republican Party, it’s not without reason. For years pampango Feb 2016 #9
So many words ... madamesilverspurs Feb 2016 #10
Why Faux pas Feb 2016 #11
It's called multislacking. eggplant Feb 2016 #13
"Multislacking". Never heard such an apt description before. Mind if I use it? brush Feb 2016 #42
'Tis not mine to own. Have at it, good friend. n/t eggplant Feb 2016 #43
What about doing what's best for the country? MsMAC Feb 2016 #14
I'll bet the can find time to vote to repeal Obamacare about 10 more times before the election world wide wally Feb 2016 #15
More obstructionism from the party of obstructionists. lpbk2713 Feb 2016 #16
Vote the Rascals OUT! SoapBox Feb 2016 #17
Can't due to gerrymandering mmonk Feb 2016 #33
Try. You gotta try. Get more voters to show up. ffr Feb 2016 #37
McConnell's action are another reason why SmittynMo Feb 2016 #18
Amen! n/t ffr Feb 2016 #38
McConnell would leave all the cakes asjr Feb 2016 #19
Democrats should mess with them by introducing a bill to build a giant wall on the southern border. tclambert Feb 2016 #20
Who's Donald Trump? KamaAina Feb 2016 #21
You're right, of course. That loser doesn't matter any more. tclambert Feb 2016 #22
Lol..or offer up a bill that both repeals the ACA and replaces it with single payer.. Volaris Feb 2016 #39
i hate TURTLEMAN McConnell. trueblue2007 Feb 2016 #23
Did you know turtles eat pond scum? nt kristopher Feb 2016 #24
So that's what happened to Boner! KamaAina Feb 2016 #25
Genuine LOL!!! nt kristopher Feb 2016 #27
They are in office to work for the people of America, not play childish smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #28
Infuriating libodem Feb 2016 #29
Corrupt: selling out the country for personal political gain. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2016 #30
How long can do nothing work though? Pres. Sanders/Clinton... JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #31
I thought their jobs were to do what's best for AMERICANS cyberswede Feb 2016 #32
Very sad..Perhaps McConell should end up in the same place as Governor Poison. for doing nothing!!! Stuart G Feb 2016 #34
That's not news. Hell they done nothing at least since 2010 except collect paychecks and built up a rladdi Feb 2016 #40
TECHNICALLY, the congress needs expanding. need more congress critters,less low pop congress. pansypoo53219 Feb 2016 #49
Expanding the Senate would require a constitutional amendment. KamaAina Feb 2016 #52
Hillary will tell them to knock it off WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #50
Well, thre ya go, then. 'Bernie won't be able to get anything done' is officially dead as a reason Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #51
they haven't governed for seven years. they are worthless. spanone Feb 2016 #54
Didn't they take some vow when they were sworn in? JudyM Feb 2016 #55
The more republican reveals, the more people understand that republicans can't govern. B Calm Feb 2016 #60
They've been doing nothing since Obama was elected - LiberalElite Feb 2016 #63
Do nothing? Can't they at least reverse Obamacare? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #64
How is that any different than what they've done since the 1980s? Rex Feb 2016 #66
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