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In reply to the discussion: Refugees among gang caught on video dancing, singing in Arabic as they rape unconscious teen [View all]Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)refugees at least pass through last year.
Greece is a country with about 11 million population. They can't handle it. There is no way their infrastructure can handle the situation, and no way even with massive aid it can handle the situation. Since most of the actual refugees are coming through other countries, they are not, by international law, entitled to refuge in Greece.
International law doesn't say that a refugee can travel on to a country of their choice.
But Turkey has millions of refugees already. They can't handle it either.
I think the sheer numbers are undoable for Europe under their current system. I don't see any way it can be handled.
And many of these people aren't entitled to refuge, but can't be deported. I have been reading Austrian, French, Italian, Danish and Swedish newspapers, and they all say that they are going to start deporting those not entitled, and then in the next breath it turns out that they can't, because the countries of origin don't want them back. A Swedish government official said they are going to deport at least 60,000 of those who came last year. The response to that statement was a statement by the immigration people that they can't.
This is a rather horrible situation and I don't see how it will get better.
I think this is past a European problem. It's an international problem that needs a massive UN intervention. This is partly economic and partly a result of wars, but without suppressing the war in Syria as a beginning, how does this situation improve or become more manageable?
The Syrian population is about 23 million, or was. The population of Afghanistan is about 30 million. The Eritrean population is about 6 million. The Moroccan population is about 33 million. The Tunisian population is 10-11 million. If 5% of those populations try to head to Europe, that's five million people.
Then add Iraq, Pakistan (non-negligible numbers there), Libya, and multiple African nations with current civil wars or bloody religious/ethnic conflicts. There is no way generally for the host countries to accurately distinguish between refugees/better life migrants.
Huge numbers of people coming into Europe are refusing to even register in the first country they enter. The Germans conducted raids of several refugee shelters just to register and fingerprint some. Many of these people are destroying their identity documents, so if they are refused they can't be deported.
There is no good way to handle this, but the current situation is not viable either.