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hfojvt

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10. actually in the police's defense
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

they were just going by what the hospital said - that she was fine to go. As such, when she fell to the ground, they figured she was probably just faking to be non-cooperative. They actually did get medical help right away, according to the story. It says there was a nurse attempting to get her in the car, and also taking her pulse. Why not a doctor? Well, doctors are busy. A nurse is your first step and presumably has the training and knowledge to know if a doctor is needed.

Of course, people have their limitations. They may or may not have seen a case like yours (or hers). When I went to the hospital I told them "I cannot swallow" and they asked "What do you mean by that?" I am thinking to myself "there are four words there, which one didn't you understand?"

Except they understood just fine - they just didn't believe me. In somewhat the same way, this woman says "I cannot breathe" and they didn't believe it. After all, they can see her breathing and hear her talking, so she must be able to breathe.

I am not clear on the story. Did the hospital say "We will not treat her?" or did they say "she does not need treatment?" The story does not say. Either way, THEY are the ones who called the cops to have her removed. It does say that she refused to seek medical help elsewhere. Which would tend to make a person think "she is not really sick".

It's probably as much about money as anything else. If she had money or some kind of insurance, they usually would be happy to at least do a walletectomy (where they attach leeches to your wallet and bleed you of your cash).

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Yes, but in the police's defense, she was black. I think that's considered a defense valerief Feb 2016 #1
Yeah, right. pnwmom Feb 2016 #2
Exactly. It ought to be a crime. Wait! Isn't it? Hard to tell in these surreal times. nt valerief Feb 2016 #3
By the hospital, very probably, although this may be a case of Black-Without-Good-Insurance. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #7
Yes. They should have called a doctor as soon as she passed out, not waited 18 minutes. pnwmom Feb 2016 #8
Well, it seems like they got a nurse there and let her make the decision. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #12
She needed to stay there, not go to another facility, quite a distance away. pnwmom Feb 2016 #13
On this one, I don't blame the officers but the hospital. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #4
Bottom line: when she left the hospital she was capable of walking. When she collapsed pnwmom Feb 2016 #14
But if the police had been told she was faking mythology Feb 2016 #20
Doesn't matter. They were told she was faking when she said she couldn't breathe. pnwmom Feb 2016 #21
actually in the police's defense hfojvt Feb 2016 #10
The report said that she was propped up against the car, and that after they pnwmom Feb 2016 #11
But how can hospital personnel not understand that "I can't breathe" is a TYPICAL pnwmom Feb 2016 #16
see but that goes back to the responsibility of the hospital hfojvt Feb 2016 #23
No, it doesn't excuse the cop. The cop had her in his custody, pnwmom Feb 2016 #24
I am not hearing anything hfojvt Feb 2016 #25
I listened to the audio and it isn't clear who the woman is who says, "I've never seen Barbara pnwmom Feb 2016 #26
now I remember hfojvt Feb 2016 #29
Here's the audio, and my attempt at a partial transcript. pnwmom Feb 2016 #32
Why couldn't you swallw? That's scary. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #18
it was scarier the first time hfojvt Feb 2016 #22
I loved the very learned advice the cop gave her when she said she couldn't breathe justiceischeap Feb 2016 #5
Yes, and people having an asthma attack can talk until their airway closes completely. pnwmom Feb 2016 #9
Oh, Delphinus Feb 2016 #6
She deserves a lot of money. But the citizens will pay and no cop punished. Typical. nt Logical Feb 2016 #15
She won't get any money. wildeyed Feb 2016 #17
ttt Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #19
I had a pulmonary embolism. Turbineguy Feb 2016 #27
Can you imagine being treated like this woman while you were in the midst of that? pnwmom Feb 2016 #33
She would probably still be alive if she had an extra 500 a month for health insurance. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #28
You don't know that she didn't have insurance, but it isn't the fault of Obamacare pnwmom Feb 2016 #30
Well we come to a point of several agreements. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #31
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